If Wolong died in the phoenix slope and Pang Tong was alive, can he still win Sima Yi in the future?

Pang Tong, Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi come from the same school and have the same knowledge system, which is the comparison of mind and chance! Zhuge Liang's scholarship mainly consists of two parts:

1, edified and taught by his family, mainly by his uncle!

2. The influence of Huang,,, and Pang Degong!

And Pang's ShiYuan is Pang Degong's nephew! Sima Yi is Si Mahui's nephew! I believe many people are not necessarily clear about the relationship! Zhuge Liang shouted "Pang Degong, help me" when he died. It can be seen that Zhuge Liang has a special relationship with Pang Degong, and the biggest possibility is the mentoring relationship!

Since everyone's knowledge system is the same, we should regard our enemies as friends and know ourselves!

Next, it depends on how they use this knowledge and compare their minds!

Pang Tong should rank third among Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi!

Zhuge Liang's means and mind are both internal and external! Zhuge Liang is a general in foreign wars and a relative in internal peace!

When Liu Bei died, he was originally entrusted to Zhuge Liang and Li Yan, among whom Zhuge Liang was in charge of the army and Li Yan was in charge of the army!

But in fact, after Zhuge Liang accepted the entrustment, he first razed the south to the ground, clearing the way for the rear area of Shu and Han!

The second is to make great contributions to the governance of Shu Han!

When Liu Bei fought the battle of Yiling, he lost half of the property of Shu Han! It took Zhuge Aliang several years to restore national strength! It can be seen that Zhuge Liang's governance ability is extraordinary!

Judging from the order recommended by Si Mahui, Zhuge Liang is also the first to bear the brunt. Sima Yi first recommended Xu Shu to Liu Bei, and later Xu Shu was held hostage by Cao Cao, so there was no way to find him again. Xu Shu recommended Zhuge Liang! This is what Si Mahui said:

Wolong Feng Chu, one person can protect the world!

So Liu Bei first chose Zhuge Liang instead of Pang Tong! This also shows that Pang Tong is not as famous as Zhuge Liang!

When Pang Tong first arrived at Liu Bei, he was also unpopular with Liu Bei. First, he gave people a Leiyang county magistrate. As a result, Pang Tong thought he was not a talent and didn't want to do it! Although it is said that he can handle government affairs for several months a day, I think there is something blowing water in it! If it is so powerful, why don't Wu Dong and Cao Wei argue?

Back to Pang Tong, he doesn't seem to have many tricks. Finally, he gave Liu Bei a trick and ended up putting himself in!

Pang Tong gave Liu Bei three moves. As a result, Liu Bei chose the middle one, and Pang Tong led the troops. Finally, Pang Tong was shot dead by random arrows on Phoenix Slope! Just from the calculation point of view, Pang Tong is far worse than Wolong. Since you are a soldier, you can't do something basic. Don't say the right place at the right time!

As far as the application of geography and geomorphology is concerned, he did a terrible job! According to legend, he died in Fenghuangpo. If there is a place called Phoenix Slope, you don't even know it's in Feng Chu, but you have to plunge into it. Don't you deserve it?

According to official records, Pang Tong was shot dead by random arrows because he attacked Luocheng (that is, the Guanghan area in Deyang today)!

You're the commander in chief, and you don't even have basic defense measures? Pang Tong is not a military commander. Why do you have to take the lead and be shot by random arrows? This does not meet the standards of a handsome talent!

Besides, if Wolong dies, can Feng Chu compete with Sima Yi?

The answer is no, Sima Yi lived to resist Zhuge Liang!

Anyone who has read the History of the Three Kingdoms and The Romance must know that Sima Yi's strategy is to see people thoroughly!

He has a thorough understanding of Zhuge Liang, Cao Cao and Cao Pi!

Although he can't figure out the methods and strategies to defeat Zhuge Liang, he knows Zhuge Liang's ideas and strategies!

Sima yi's coping style is to change with the same! If I am not absolutely sure, I will shrink back. I'm wasting time with you!

So Sima Yi killed many people, such as Zhuge Liang, Cao Cao, Cao Pi and Cao Fang.

Feng Chu wants to fight Sima Yi, and the biggest possibility is that Shu Han will perish in advance. Shu Han went to the back, and Zhuge Liang almost held up half the sky alone!

In the eyes of Cao Cao, Feng Chu is nothing. If compared with Yu Xun, Xun You, Jia Xu, Cheng Yu and Guo Jiazhong, it is estimated that they will be ranked last! Jia Xu, a vicious schemer, can defeat him!

So if Zhuge Liang dies in Phoenix Slope, Liu Bei will not only cry, but also cry to death!

First, talent

Xu Shu, Wolong, Feng Chu, and Sancai, as recorded in The Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Xu Shu said that Zhuge Liang was ten times more talented than himself, and Zhuge Liang said that Pang Tong was ten times more talented than himself. Literally, Xu Shu is Zhuge Liang and Pang Tong, or maybe the ancients were modest, but at least Pang Tong. Zhuge Liang is equally talented.

Second, personality.

Zhuge Liang was cautious all his life and did everything himself, which led to exhaustion. Sima Yi said that Zhuge Liang was like this. "How long can it last?" , and Pang Tong is leisurely, outsize, and zhuge liang, on the contrary, the last to start the northern expedition is Pang Tong, at least not before zhuge liang died. Zhuge Liang pays attention to public plans, Pang Tong is a conspiracy, and all public plans are for fun. As long as you catch a mouse, you are a good cat. To be sure, if Sima Yi plays against Pang Tong, who is more cunning than Zhuge Liang, it will definitely make Sima Yi more headache and more uncomfortable.

Third, the general trend.

In the war between countries, being a general is of course very important. But fundamentally speaking, it is comprehensive national strength. In the late Three Kingdoms period, Cao Wei was greater than the sum of Shu and Wu in terms of territory, population, grain, finance and taxation. Therefore, no matter how talented Zhuge Liang and Pang Tong were, there was no way to defeat Cao Wei, who had a population of only 900,000 in the late Shu State, and Sima Yisheng finally won.

If Pang Tong was better than Zhuge Liang, he would not have died at the hands of Zhang Ren. Let's talk about Zhu Gekongming first: Zhuge Liang is familiar with astronomy and geography, yin and yang military intelligence, eight arrays, strange men fleeing from armour, and other "Twenty-four Articles of the Art of War" were written by Zhuge Liang, a famous Shu-Han star, in his later years, which recorded Zhuge Liang's experience in marching and fighting for decades and governing the country and keeping the country safe. In the Battle of Wuzhangyuan, Zhuge Liang taught Jiang Wei what he had learned all his life before he died, making Jiang Wei the most powerful heir of Zhuge Liang.

Zhuge Liang was invited by Corporal Li Xian, and Liu Bei visited him. A sentence in "Longzhong Dui" made Liu Bei suddenly enlightened, such as sweeping the clouds to see the sky. Kong Ming is still young, and he knows three points in the world, so he is not as good as people from all ages! : "Yuzhou" lamented loneliness and pity that day, and was glad that there was Wolong in Nanyang! Want to know his age, Mr. Wang smiled and pointed to drawing.

After Liu Bei settled in Wolong, he left Kongming as his teacher, ate at the same table, slept on the same couch, and talked about what was going on in the world all day, so he still got water from fish. Zhuge Liang Bowangpo fought at the beginning, and Xia Houdun was frightened by a fire, killing Cao Jun's dead bodies everywhere, with rivers of blood. ...

In his later years, Zhuge Liang fought with Sima Yi many times, so that Sima Yi did not dare to fight and was given women's clothes.

Besides, Pang Tong himself was congenial to Xuande, who demoted him to Leiyang County as a county butcher. He was a director for one hundred days. Fortunately, Zhang Fei, who went to inspect, discovered his talent. He boasted in front of Zhang Fei: Cao Cao and Sun Quan, I regard them as palm reading and measuring this small county. Why bother?

After Pang Tong came, he was jealous of Zhuge Liang's achievements. In order to compete with Zhuge Liang, when he took the western Shu with Liu Bei, he led his troops into Zhang Ren's ambush and died tragically in Luofengpo. True, but before he conquered, he was dead and lived to be 36 years old.

Zhang Ren can't handle it. How can he compete with Sima Yi? Pang Tong is just a hollow reputation.

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Of course I can't beat it. Pang Tong knows this truth, and Pang Tong has long realized that he should die in Phoenix Ridge. If Zhuge Liang had died in Fenghuangling, Shu would have perished, because Pang Tong could not compete with Zhuge Liang in military command. He can only be a counselor, but he can't lead the troops to fight. Of course, Sima Yi can't beat the wily plan. Take the empty scheme as an example. Many people think that Zhuge Liang is superior in intelligence and cheated Sima Yi through false calculation. But in fact, if you dig deeper, you will know how terrible Sima Yi is. He deliberately did not expose Zhuge Liang. Zhuge Liang finally broke a string while playing the piano on the rostrum. At this time, Sima Yi knew it was a trick, because she knew that if there was an ambush in the city. Zhuge Liang can't play the string at all. There is only one reason for playing the string, that is, he is particularly uneasy, because there is no ambush in the city. If he rushed in at this time, Sima Yi could have captured Zhuge Liang alive, but Sima Yi didn't, because he knew that birds and animals were well known, and a good bow could not hide fire. Zhuge Liang is dead, and Sima Yi will not live long. So he quit. This shows that Sima Yi is terrible and has a strong heart. Even the resourceful Zhuge Liang can't compare with Sima Yi. Can a Pang Tong do it? Obviously not, so even if Zhuge Liang died in Phoenix Slope, Pang Tong could not win Sima Yi.

If Wolong dies, I'm afraid it's a disaster for Liu Bei Group. Don't consider whether Pang Tongcan can win Sima Yi in the future, but whether Liu Bei can occupy surprisingly. Although it is said that "Wolong Feng Chu can secure the world", there is still a big gap between Feng Chu, Pang Tong and Zhuge Liang in Wolong. As far as the method of getting out of the mountain is concerned, Zhuge Liang is much higher than Pang Tong. Liu Bei went home to invite him, and Pang Tong took the initiative to come to the door. Sun Quan and Liu Bei both rejected his ugly appearance and ignored him. Only Cao Cao appreciated him and was the master of his bosom friends, but Pang Tong presented a string of rings. Liu Bei asked him to be a county magistrate and drink wine. Fortunately, he met Zhang Fei, who was crude and refined, and was very fond of scholars. If he had met Li Kui jy, he wouldn't have been hacked to death with an axe, and Feng Chu would have been a dead chicken. Look at Xu You killed by Chu Xu and Yang Xiu killed by Cao Cao. I really want to go to Feng Chu. If Zhuge Liang died in Phoenix Slope, it would be a little difficult for Pang Tong to arrange to defend Jingzhou and organize troops to attack Xichuan from Jingzhou to meet Liu Bei. Besides, Zhang Ren who shot Zhuge Liang would be so miserable. It is estimated that before Pang Tong's team arrived, Liu Bei had been destroyed by Zhang Ren. Then Liu Zhang discovered and reused Zhang Ren, swept Jingzhou and competed with Cao Cao for Hanzhong. After Cao Cao's death, Yan Yan led the troops out of Jingzhou, Zhang Ren led the troops out of Hanzhong, and destroyed Cao Wei under the banner of helping the Han Dynasty. Liu Zhang will become the emperor of the later Han Dynasty, and Zhang Ren's achievements will be better than those of Han Xin and Sean who established the Great Han Dynasty. Haha, of course this can't happen.

Pang Tong is also an over-hyped person.

The first hype was with Zhuge Liang. They collectively called Wolong Feng Chu, just as the entertainment circle called Andy Lau the Four Heavenly Kings, just for a resounding stage name.

The second kind of hype is that Hyundai has exaggerated Pang Tong's strength, and some people even think that Pang Tong's military talent far exceeds Zhuge Liang's. This is no different from listening to the jokes of Deyun Society.

Although Pang Tong is fierce, how many of them can surpass Zhuge Liang in military capability? Zhuge Liang is good at running the army, but he lacks intrigue. This is Chen Shou's evaluation of him. In other words, Zhuge Liang is good at leading troops to fight, but he is not good at using clever methods. He likes to take his time and slow down.

But what about Pang Tong? It seems that he is good at strategizing, but whether he can really command the three armed forces is actually a big question mark, because he never commanded the three armed forces alone before his death, let alone many northern expeditions like Zhuge Liang.

Therefore, I think that if Pang Tong were alive, he and Zhuge Liang could combine their respective advantages and disadvantages to make up for the lack of comprehensive strength of Shu and Han, thus defeating Sima Yi. But if you want to say that Pang Tong is running against Sima Yi instead of Zhuge Liang, I still can't beat Sima Yi.

First, Pang Tong's military career is actually quite short. Feng Chu Pang Tong, as far as fame is concerned, seems as powerful as Zhuge Liang. In fact, we misunderstood them. Pang Tong's military career is very short, and it can be said that it ended in a hurry before it was glowing.

Pang Tong used to work for Sun Quan. After the rise of Liu Bei, Pang Tong moved to Liu Bei. To tell the truth, Liu Bei despises Pang Tong at first, and only gives him the position of a county magistrate, so that Pang Tong can sleep at home all day.

Fortunately, Zhuge Liang and Lu Su praised him many times, and Pang Tong became Liu Bei's confidant, thus becoming Liu Bei's army commander like Zhuge Liang. Pang Tong's military career began at this time.

Liu Bei wanted to seize Yizhou and enter Yizhou with Pang Tong. Before Liu Zhang hosted a banquet for Liu Bei, Pang Tong urged Liu Bei to take Liu Zhang hostage directly. It's a pity that Liu Bei felt that he didn't buy people's hearts, so he refused this suggestion.

1 year Liu Bei went to Jiamengguan. At this time, Pang Tong provided Liu Bei with three strategies:

Whichever you do, you can't stay in Jiamengguan any longer. Obviously, Liu Bei is also a procrastinator. He didn't realize that if he stayed any longer, Liu would turn against him. After all, he has been eating and drinking 1 year.

In the end, Liu Bei chose Zhongce, killed Yang Huai and Gao Pei, and then went straight to Chengdu. Have a good trip, but when attacking Los Angeles, Pang Tong was shot dead by random arrows! 36 years old, do you think it's right?

Pang Tong died before he shone, so Pang Tong's military career was too short. His highlight moment was to give Liu Bei three strategies, and we simply could not see the rest of his military talents. Do you think he exaggerates?

Second, Pang Tong is not necessarily the material to lead troops. At first, Zhuge Liang and Pang Tong were actually more like Sean-style talents. If you let them advise, they are all top-notch, but if you let them lead the troops to fight, maybe they will not be able to.

After all, both of them were scholars in those days, and there was no chance to lead troops to fight at all. After Zhuge Liang entered Liu Bei's camp, he also worked in logistics, diplomacy and internal affairs for a long time, and rarely got his hands on military power. This is Liu Bei patiently cultivating Zhuge Liang, a young man who will have many opportunities in the future.

Why did Zhuge Liang lead the troops so badly later? Mainly forced to helpless, if Liu Bei is still alive, or Liu Chan has the level of troops like Liu Bei, then Zhuge Liang is too lazy to personally lead troops to the battlefield!

As a result, Liu Bei died in Baidicheng, and Liu Chan was a man who didn't understand military affairs. Zhuge Liang had to drive the ducks to the shelves and personally lead the troops to the battlefield.

Zhuge Liang also had a process from mastermind to general who led troops to the front. After Liu Bei's death, the first attempt to lead troops south to quell the Nan 'an uprising was the first taste of commanding the three armies.

With such an internship case, Zhuge Liang once again led troops to the Northern Expedition, and he was confident. And Pang Tong? There has never been a case of leading troops, let alone commanding the three armed forces, and even the experience of leading a detachment alone is very few. What makes you say that he can beat Sima Yi?

Pang Tong lacks the opportunity of independent internship, so his ability to command the three armed forces alone has never been brought into play, let alone as excellent as Zhuge Liang.

Third, Pang Tong may be able to make up for Zhuge Liang's shortcomings. In the History of the Three Kingdoms, the evaluation of Zhuge Liang is more pertinent. He is definitely a good soldier who leads troops to fight, otherwise it is impossible to rank among the ten philosophers of Wu Temple.

Sima Yi leaned against the powerful Cao Wei clique, and as a result, he could only curl up and dare not fight Zhuge Liang. Therefore, there is no doubt about Zhuge Liang's military ability, and there is no need to chop people for the sake of chopping people.

However, Zhuge Liang does have some shortcomings in his ingenuity, which can't be blamed on Zhuge Liang, because Shu Han has so little capital, and it is great to have 65,438+10,000 new troops at the very most! No one dares to mess with this capital.

So Wei Yan's plan to leave Meridian Valley was rejected by Zhuge Liang because the risk was too great. Zhuge Liang was not worried that Wei Yan could not take Chang 'an, but that the army could not defeat Cao Wei's army as scheduled and meet Wei Yan in Chang 'an. Can Wei Yan's 65,438+ten thousand people hold Chang 'an if there is no one to meet him? Cao Cao put it out long ago.

Pang Tong's mind seems to be jumping. If he survives to assist Zhuge Liang, he may be able to make up for Zhuge Liang's shortcomings. In this way, there are people who are in charge of the overall situation and people who are at a loss. Shu Han should still be able to beat Sima Yi.

Conclusion: Substitution can't solve the fundamental problem of Shu and Han. After all, Shu Han is the Shandawang Group, with profits in its hands and mountains all around it. Relying on the geographical location that is easy to defend but difficult to attack, it has survived for 43 years.

So it is not easy for Zhuge Liang to be able to do that in the Northern Expedition. If Wei Yan's Northern Expedition is changed, the capital of Shu Han will be lost in two or three years. At that time, even if the front won the battle, it would eventually destroy Shu Han in advance.

Because the population of Cao Wei is too large, they are not short of people at all. Even if there is an army of 200,000 people, if you have an army of 65,438+million people in Shu Han, people will send another 200,000 people, but Shu Han will not continue to send people.

This is the place where Shu Han suffered the most. After Guan Yu lost Jingzhou and Liu Bei lost Yiling, Shu Han never mentioned the unification of the whole country again. It's business to think about survival first. Zhuge Liang's life-saving tactics are a bit costly, but at least they are a way. Without Zhuge Liang and Liu Bei, perhaps Han Shu Group would be torn apart.

References:

History of Three Kingdoms

I think it's different.

First of all, the enemy of Wolongpo is compared with Sima Yi. To be honest, you don't have to know. As far as the enemy of Wolongpo is concerned, I don't think it is the real front line, even worse than Guan Yu and Zhang Fei. However, Pang Tong died there. Of course, some people say that Liu Bei was persuaded by death, and he was righteous. I think it's purely beautification. Zhuge Liang may have the best of both worlds. A politician who is blown to the sky is not a qualified strategist. A battle that doesn't involve life and death, just folding yourself there, I really don't see how powerful Pang Tong is. I think it's his credit for sticking to Battle of Red Cliffs, which has nothing to do with it. Therefore, Pang Tong's military capability is overestimated, just like Liu Bei's attack on Wu, and it is terrible to overestimate himself.

Secondly, compared with Wolong and Feng Chu, Zhuge Liang's record is passable, while Pang Tong feels that his record is really average.

Again, Zhuge Liang is a politician, Sima Yi is a strategist, and Pang Tong doesn't have much time. He feels like Zhuge Liang and a politician, a little lower than Zhuge Liang, but I feel that his military ability is better than Zhuge Liang. Most importantly, Liu Bei likes Pang Tong even more than Zhuge Liang, and even Fazheng has a higher position than Zhuge Liang.

No one can defeat Sima Yi, including Zhuge Liang. Sima Yi was not really defeated. The situation made him win and lose.

History cannot assume that the fall of Shu Han was not the main reason for being a counselor, but was caused by many factors. If Pang Tong had been extremely clever, he would not have died in the phoenix slope.