What if Qing used the guillotine when Eight-Nation Alliance invaded?

To be responsible, there is no such weapon as the guillotine in this world.

The so-called guillotine, the legend of blood is a kind of cover, with chains on it and knives as sharp as teeth on the edge of the cover. When in use, one hand grabs the chain and the other hand throws the guillotine at the enemy, and the guillotine will keep spinning like a frisbee. Once the enemy is covered, they will be beheaded.

In fact, just think about it, this thing just can't exist.

Generally speaking, Mongolian lasso is similar, but lasso is just a rope, mainly for trapping horses.

Because horses don't suddenly disguise themselves when running, Mongolian riders usually harness their horses with harness poles instead of throwing them like guillotines, so the accuracy is higher.

You want to get a big living person, unless the other person is an idiot or paraplegia, it is impossible to get it, so you leave.

In fact, the guillotine is just an assassination organization, which mainly exists in Yong Zhengdi's secret army (commonly known as the cudgel) in Shangyu.

It is mainly used to deal with those who are inconvenient for public trial and kill them by assassination.

Because there were no cameras in ancient times, after killing these people, guillotines' team members would cut off their heads and give them to the captain to ensure that they had completed the task.

The people they killed had no heads, so they passed it on and this weapon-the guillotine appeared.

The guillotine is said to be a fearsome hidden weapons in Qing Dynasty, which was most widely used in Yongzheng period. We watched some movies and TV works and interpreted this kind of hidden weapons as magical horror!

What is the guillotine? Judging from this description, the guillotine is very powerful. He can get the head by "pulling the mechanism", but this premise is that he must "cover the head". How to put this thing on each other's head? I think of two pictures:

The first picture is very handsome and has the demeanor of a martial arts master; The second picture is obscene. The terrible hidden weapon of the guillotine was used like a thief.

Can such a hidden weapons be used against Eight-Nation Alliance? You will understand from the above introduction that it is impossible to use the guillotine to deal with Eight-Nation Alliance! This kind of hidden weapons doesn't exist at all, it's just an object imagined by novelists.

According to the novel, the guillotine is hidden weapons used by Yongzheng to destroy dissidents, and this kind of hidden weapons is used by a special organization, that is, sticks.

What is the mechanism of bonzi? Legend has it that it is a secret service organization organized by Yongzheng, just like the Royal Guards, the East Factory and the West Factory in the Ming Dynasty. In fact, the stick is only the institution responsible for the emperor's play. Many people don't understand the meaning of the word bonzi, but friends who grew up in the countryside must know it.

Have you ever played sticky dragonflies and cicadas? Grow a long bamboo pole, then run around the village looking for a spider web, put one end of the bamboo pole into the spider web, and turn the bamboo pole to roll it up. When the club head is covered with a thick spider web, dip the club head in some water, and use this to stick cicadas or dragonflies. Once it is stuck, it will be accurate!

The sticky pole in Qing dynasty was just a name, not just responsible for catching cicadas. They are generally responsible for the emperor's spare-time activities, such as fishing and playing, or in the present words, logistics management.

Conclusion The guillotine is a product of fiction. When Eight-Nation Alliance invaded, there was no sticker system, and there was no guillotine to deal with them.

What if Qing used the guillotine when Eight-Nation Alliance invaded?

Will unveil the mystery of the guillotine for us!

What else can you change? Forgive my ignorance, but I can't think of it.

At that time, the Boxer Rebellion claimed to be an avatar to protect the body, which was invulnerable and influenced by the Qing Dynasty. It turned the purpose of "opposing the Qing Dynasty and destroying the foreign countries" into "helping the Qing Dynasty and destroying the foreign countries", and it became a friendship with the Qing Dynasty.

The Boxer Rebellion should be the strongest shield in their hearts at that time, right?

As a result, it was still no match for guns and guns, and it was beaten out of the water.

What would happen if the Qing dynasty offered the secret weapon "guillotine" in the legend of Yongzheng in May?

Can the mysterious weapon that claims to kill one person with a hundred paces be more powerful than a foreign gun?

As far as I know, one step is about 0.75 meters, and the hundred steps should be 75 meters. Even if the big step in the Qing Dynasty was 1.5 meters, the hundred steps were 150 meters. This is the effective attack radius of the guillotine.

As far as I know, the guillotine should be a single attack, only one enemy's head can be cut off at a time, not a group attack skill, and no one can kill a large area.

So, how many guillotine troops were there in the Qing Dynasty? Will they maintain sustained firepower like a foreigner's three-stage attack?

As far as I know, when Eight-Nation Alliance invaded, the Qing army had been equipped with foreign guns and guns, as well as the latest Maxim heavy machine guns.

Not to mention the terrible firing rate and lethality of heavy machine guns, just a Nuber gun that can shoot 10 shells in one minute, which is probably not worse than the guillotine, right?

But what role did these advanced weapons play in the hands of the Qing Dynasty?

So once a person is exhausted, it is no use using any weapon.

If the legendary killer of the guillotine is clearly revealed, I really don't know what is the use except to uncover the mystery of the guillotine and satisfy the curiosity of the world. Please forgive my ignorance.

Legend has it that the guillotine is an assassination organization, dedicated to serving the royal family and eradicating righteous people who oppose the Qing Dynasty and regain their sight.

If the Qing Dynasty used the guillotine when Eight-Nation Alliance invaded China, it would probably win a complete victory over Eight-Nation Alliance.

Methods: The guillotine organization only needs to wage guerrilla warfare against Eight-Nation Alliance.

Guerrilla warfare means that the guillotine, as an assassination organization, has high martial arts, but in the face of organized regular troops, especially those with extremely advanced equipment and even machine guns, it is unlikely that they will approach Eight-Nation Alliance directly.

No matter how severe the guillotine is, it is inevitable that the machine guns will rain down. Besides, the shooting speed of bullets is often as high as several kilometers per second, so there is no time to hide.

Therefore, the guillotine and Eight-Nation Alliance should wage guerrilla warfare throughout North China.

As long as you seize the opportunity, you will sneak attack with the guillotine. We will eliminate three today and five tomorrow. Within a year, thousands of people will be killed and four or five thousand injured in Eight-Nation Alliance.

Personally, I think the guillotine should not only use hidden weapons, but also keep pace with the times and practice marksmanship, which is very beneficial to pick up all kinds of firearms in the confrontation with Eight-Nation Alliance and continue fighting when hidden weapons runs out.

However, the guillotine also has its shortcomings, and it is very fatal:

First of all, they are too few to supplement. It takes years of training for the guillotine to become a qualified killer.

Facing the battle with Eight-Nation Alliance, it is difficult for the guillotine to be replenished in time and effectively after the sacrifice.

Moreover, considering that the children of the Eight Banners had completely degenerated at that time, most people were playing with each other, not mentioning caged birds and smoking cigarettes.

It is not easy to select a group of qualified reserve personnel from the children of the Eight Banners, but if you don't choose the children of the Eight Banners, then you won't be at ease to choose others to use them.

Therefore, it is estimated that the number of people in the guillotine will remain at several hundred, and it will be difficult to supplement it if the losses are heavy.

Second, this resistance takes too long. If the guillotine can wipe out 1500 Eight-Nation Alliance soldiers and injure 5,000 people every year, it is estimated that it will take three to five years, and Eight-Nation Alliance soldiers may lose more than 20,000 talents.

Three or five years is too long. /kloc-The Qing Dynasty in 0/900 faced not only Eight-Nation Alliance's aggression, but also the decoupling of those local power groups.

To tell the truth, for the Qing dynasty, these local strength factions were the threat to other countries.

Therefore, it is necessary to sign a treaty with Eight-Nation Alliance as soon as possible and lose more than 400 million taels of silver.

It seems that although the guillotine has a great chance of success, Qing can't afford to wait!

The guillotine usually appears in film and television dramas, and its shape is similar to harness. Its main function is to successfully put a barrel-shaped device on the head of the prey, and then the lower organ will automatically lock the head. Because the parts on the organ are very sharp, it is easy to "twist off" the other person's head when he pulls the rope by using the lever principle, so he won the reputation of guillotine.

But when throwing this thing, it needs high precision, and because of the material factor, the overall weight is not light, so it is difficult to train talents. But to say a thousand words and ten thousand words is still an attack distance!

In fact, the so-called toggle mechanism is to lock the prey by pulling the rope at the moment of throwing. But how long can the rope be? Ten meters? Twenty meters? It's already amazing. Even if the attack distance is far from the sword, don't forget that Eight-Nation Alliance's cold weapons were almost eliminated at that time. Even the Qing dynasty was equipped with a "single-pull old cylinder".

Even in the late Qing dynasty, the attack distance of thermal weapons was not as good as it is now, and the lethality could be guaranteed at least within two or three hundred meters. Moreover, at that time, Britain, France, Germany and other countries, after the completion of the industrial revolution, mechanized technology left more than a few streets in the Qing Dynasty. Large thermal weapons and equipment, including warships, etc. , all have advanced geometry. How to fight? With what? In the end, Deng Shichang had no choice but to "meet" and set sail, which not only reflected the demise of the Qing Dynasty, but also alluded to the western powers. At that time, scientific research and development was really advanced.

Fight with the guillotine, regardless of whether you can wear Yang 100 meters. It's just a waste of time when "throwing chains", and the other party has already lost track of how many rounds. In addition, the guillotine usually appears in the form of a hidden weapon. Even if those "heroes" succeed in breaking into the enemy's tent, how can they get out then? What's more, once the enemy finds any trouble, he basically won't come forward to confirm it, just pick up the gun for a while. Once this happens, will the heroes get hurt?

Therefore, this kind of thing, the guillotine, can be seen in film and television dramas. It is acknowledged that it is the crystallization of the wisdom of the ancients, but in the face of hot weapons, forget it, the price is not high.

The guillotine is famous for a movie. In this film and television work, a mysterious organization used a very special weapon, which they called the guillotine.

So, who is the "guillotine" and was passed so brilliantly?

Looking through official data, there is no record of "guillotine" at all, that is to say, the emergence of this mysterious thing should be mainly circulated among the people. In the martial arts novels of the Qing Dynasty, there are indeed records about such objects: "The guillotine is made of leather and contains several sharp knives to control the organs. When he uses it, he covers his head and pulls the organ while people are unprepared. "

From this point of view, the guillotine in the film really fits the record. However, the problem is that real life is not a movie. In the movie, the masters of mysterious organizations are like clouds, and the guillotines in their hands are connected by a long chain. Once thrown, it will follow the lead like a missile and go straight to the other side. Even if the opponent jumps up and plays a prank, it is hard to get rid of it. In reality, this fictional situation is simply impossible.

According to the design in the novel, the guillotine can't be called a weapon at all. Because we have to put the enemy's head in when people are unprepared, and then start the mechanism and take the first step. However, no one can foolishly put such a thing on his head. It is totally impractical to make weapons, let alone to make hidden weapons. Because the guillotine is too big, a basketball hit your head. Can this be called hidden weapons? This can only be regarded as a sacrificial vessel, or it is extremely difficult to use.

Therefore, it is impossible to regard the guillotine as a weapon or a hidden weapon only in novels. However, the guillotine can be used as a torture device.

The lethality of this kind of torture device may be similar to that of the straw cutter, but the fear it brings is not found in other kinds of torture devices. It's perfect to use this as a torture device to extract confessions by torture. And once you get the information you want, killing people is also very convenient. This may be the real purpose of the guillotine.

However, as a lynching tool, the guillotine may also represent a mysterious organization. And this mysterious organization, the biggest possibility is that Yong Zhengdi was set up in order to stand out in the battle for the Nine Children.

Using this instrument of torture against Eight-Nation Alliance is like fighting with a tiger stool, which is tantamount to suicide. You know, Eight-Nation Alliance used far more firearms than several generations of Qing army. Its proficiency in firearms tactics is by no means comparable to that of the Eight Banners soldiers or green campers who were still in the era of cold weapons. Unless they have the superb skills of innuendo in movies, they can't kill the enemy with such clumsy things at all.

Therefore, neither torture devices nor mysterious organizations whose main purpose is to obtain information can pose any effective threat to the G8 with modern weapons and equipment.

Not good! This is not a horizontal competition. First of all, weapons and users cannot be popularized. Who is the man who uses the guillotine? It is a secret service established by Yong Zhengdi to consolidate its dominant position. It can be said that they are all martial arts masters, and they are all masters who can treat one thing as a hundred. Flying over a cliff is as easy as taking something from a bag. They are a few elites carefully selected by Yong Zhengdi, not popular soldiers, so it is impossible for all outstanding people to use them.

Secondly, the living environment of the guillotine has not been used. Eight-Nation Alliance invaded China, the Qing government was corrupt, and the children of the founding Eight Banners became gluttons. The reason why the rulers of the Qing Dynasty were still in the position of rulers mainly depended on a Han Chinese who mastered military power, such as Zeng Guofan and Li Hongzhang. At the same time, the rulers of the Qing dynasty did not forget to restrain them and set up their own competitors for them. But the soldiers and generals who can be used to fight at this time are all promoted from suppressing the rebellion. Ninety-nine percent of them are civil servants or poor people, and there is no basis for using the guillotine, because the guillotine is a special weapon. If it is not long-term exercise, it is possible that he has hurt himself, but not others.

Third, the limitations of the guillotine. The guillotine, no matter how famous, is a cold weapon. He is controlled by users, and has an important connection with his physical strength, experience and use environment. But when Eight-Nation Alliance invaded China, Eight-Nation Alliance soldiers were already using thermal weapons, that is, mechanical weapons. They don't need long-term exercise. It can also be said that under the guidance of a certain proportion of experienced soldiers, they can easily win a battle. Maybe the Qing soldiers who used cold weapons at that time were not close to Eight-Nation Alliance.

So even if Eight-Nation Alliance invaded China and the Qing Dynasty used the guillotine, it would not change the situation, and it would still be defeated. Because their level is not an order of magnitude. Yong Zhengdi had established a secret service when he was a prince, which was the embryonic form of the sticker. Since then, after he acceded to the throne, this organization has become an important organization for Yongzheng to collect information.

Sticker is also called guillotines, which is the name of the organization, but in the novel, guillotines is no longer an institution, but a hidden weapon.

This hidden weapon can fly everywhere, a bit like a birdcage. Leather, with several sharp knives hidden in the bag. The most amazing thing is that there is an organ that controls the flight direction of the guillotine and the expansion and contraction of the sharp knife.

When people were not looking, the guillotine flew over, covered the head, pressed the switch and the head was cut off.

0 1 When Eight-Nation Alliance invaded China, why didn't the Qing Dynasty use the guillotine? The Qing dynasty did not have hot weapons in cash, so it always suffered in modern wars. It is really sad to sign a series of unequal treaties, except for compensation for ceding land.

1900 is also a year of the boxer movement. Taking the suppression of the Boxer Rebellion as the fuse, Eight-Nation Alliance led an army of about 50,000 people into Beijing.

Everywhere I went, I burned and looted, and countless treasures in Beijing were looted. You can't count them at all. Those in the palace can still be counted, but who will count how many people have been robbed?

Now let's look at the so-called nobles in Britain and France. In fact, they all cherish China's national treasures and domestic cultural relics. Where did they come from? In Hugo's words, there are two robbers, one is English and the other is French.

How did the Qing government respond at this time? Empress Dowager Cixi fled directly with Emperor Guangxu. They ran to Xi 'an, making the Great Qing Dynasty exist in name only.

So Eight-Nation Alliance broke in, the guillotine was fake, and the Eight Banners Army failed again. The Qing government can only choose to escape. How do they deal with the G8?

What was the guillotine used for in history? Similar to what I said earlier, in the history of the guillotine, it is not a hidden weapon, but an organization, and it also has a name, that is, stick. In addition, there is an official name called Shangyu Reserve Bureau.

So the situation is very clear, this is an institution set up by Yong Zhengdi, and it is a secret service. When Yongzheng was a prince, he liked silence very much.

But in summer, cicadas are singing all the time. Therefore, Yongzheng ordered a group of people to help him stick these cicadas off the tall trees around the house. This is the origin of sticks.

Yongzheng was calm on the surface when he competed with other governors for the throne, but in fact he organized some martial arts masters behind his back to train his family.

These servants used to help Yongzheng stick cicadas, so they were called sticks. After Yongzheng officially ascended the throne, Jiaoji changed its name and became an independent intelligence agency.

Since then, stick gradually standardized. For example, every morning, they have to play the memorial, and there are two prosecutors. Once any suspicious person is found, he can be arrested on the spot.

Of course, this is only a superficial role. The guards of the secret stick column are monitoring the every move of the courtiers in the DPRK. Yong Zhengdi can act quickly at the slightest sign of trouble.

But many emperors in history did this, such as the great ancestor Zhu Yuanzhang, who did it incisively and vividly. How much money the courtiers won playing mahjong last night, Zhu Yuanzhang can report it clearly the next day. Visible, the establishment of secret service is not a special case of Yong Zhengdi.

Yong Zhengdi dealt a great blow to the literati, so the pen in the hands of the literati would never treat Yongzheng lightly. Yongzheng was an emperor who advocated reform. Once the reform is started, it will offend many people. It can be seen that Yongzheng really offended many people.

In his reform, one measure was that the gentry, as a servant, took the grain as a whole, which almost offended the literati all over the world. If the average emperor sees so many literati's objections, he will definitely stop, for example, Qianlong.

So these literati, unable to fight for their own interests, decisively began to write a lot of articles to denigrate Yong Zhengdi. Enlarge any little thing infinitely.

For example, the mystery of Yongzheng's accession to the throne, in fact, now everyone knows that this is caused by the slander of literati, but who can tell at that time? The common people like this kind of topic talked about in the streets and lanes best.

Similarly, stickers and guillotines have changed the archetypes in their novels. The guillotine changed from a secret institution to a deadly hidden weapon in the blink of an eye. Yong Zhengdi was very upset about this, so he continued the tragedy of the literary inquisition.

Conclusion: Can the guillotine really stop foreign guns? Take a step back, even if the guillotine is real, can it really stop foreign guns? Obviously impossible. Because it takes some time for the guillotine to trigger, and the time for the bullet to shoot out is relatively negligible.

The speed difference is really too much. The reason why the guillotine is terrible is that it kills people in a vicious way, directly taking people's heads off.

But the purpose is to kill people, and the bullets are cleaner. Although it's terrible to take off your head, it's too long and it's suspected of being a show. Bullets can achieve their goals directly without fancy gimmicks.

This is an important reason why the guillotine can't deal with foreign guns. At that time, the Qing government was frightened by foreigners, so even if we gave them advanced weapons, they might not use them.

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If Eight-Nation Alliance invades and the Qing army uses the guillotine, the result will only be worse.

The G8 is an alliance of eight major countries, including Britain, the United States, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and Russia. Their equipment at that time represented the world-class level. Although the equipment of the Qing dynasty was also bought from these countries, the equipment of both sides did not replace each other. In the Qing dynasty, the command level was low, the soldiers were poorly trained, and the level of equipment itself could not be exerted at all. As a result, there was a one-sided war result that was completely out of proportion to armaments.

And we say that the "guillotine" of the Qing dynasty, according to legend, there are three kinds of statements:

One is assassination. Yes At that time, it was said that Yong Zhengdi inherited the unification by tampering with Kangxi's testamentary edict. After he ascended the throne, in order to stop folk rumors, he organized a "guillotine" assassination team with strong fighting capacity at that time. Its members are all knights with high martial arts, and their accuracy and efficiency are excellent. The disadvantage is that the requirements for personnel are too high and the number is seriously limited. Similar to special forces, it is very effective to perform a single specific task. But in the face of foreign guns and foreign guns Eight-Nation Alliance, the estimated effect is not good. After all, a sword is no faster than a gun.

The second refers to a hidden weapon. According to legend, it is a special weapon of Yong Zhengdi's secret service, similar to a serrated wheel or cage. When using it, throw the guillotine, which will cover the target's head and then cut it off. The lethality is amazing, but the target distance should not be too far, and the accuracy is open to question. If this weapon is used against Eight-Nation Alliance's guns, it will be a contest between cold weapons and modern weapons, and the result is self-evident.

The third kind refers to mixed poison. It is said to be a mixture of snake venom and the venom of a tree. Extremely toxic, just one drop can make people fester and die, hence the name "guillotine". Although the effect is excessive, it is impossible to verify whether it can be mass-produced. Besides, how to poison is also a real problem.

To sum up, no matter what kind of legendary guillotine can reverse the situation at that time.

Hello, let me discuss what would happen if the Qing army used the guillotine when Eight-Nation Alliance invaded. This question.

There is no historical evidence of the so-called guillotine in the legendary guillotine. One of Yong Zhengdi's treasures described in the novel Romance of the Thirteen Dynasties in the Qing Dynasty is the guillotine, and the Buddhist Lama cast a spell on him. He doesn't have to kill himself. All he has to do is say a spell, and the guillotine will fly out and take the head. In the novel, the guillotine looks like a ball with a sharp knife hidden inside. After the guillotine was pushed out, it was covered on his head, and his head immediately separated from the guillotine and disappeared. Therefore, in fact, the guillotine in literary works looks different from that in the film released on 20 12.

Among the film and television works, the film and television works about the guillotine were released as early as 1969, followed by 1990' s Secret History of Blood Drops, and the aforementioned 20 12 version. Obviously, these film and television works have not been made into fairy tales, so the scene of chanting and launching the guillotine is definitely not suitable for creation. In which the image of the guillotine becomes a chain tied to a hat or bell-shaped body. Around the main body is a shark fin-shaped steel knife with an open appearance. When used, the guillotine will be thrown, the guillotine will keep rotating, and the steel knife will separate after covering the target head. Simply put, the hammer of the meteor hammer will be replaced by the guillotine. From the magical attack of novels to the physical attack closer to reality.

Can the guillotine deliver goods in the hot weapon war? The guillotine in the novel obviously has the effect of myth, but it is doubtful whether the guillotine like a meteor hammer really exists. Even if it exists, it is rumored that its attack range is only within a hundred steps. In ancient times, 300 steps were defined as one mile, that is, 500 meters, and 100 steps were 100 meters. This is obviously exaggerated, and the real reality should not exceed 10 meter. After all, throwing 10 meter chain is a very hard thing. Even if the special forces of the Qing army are gifted, there should be a manpower limit, so assuming it can attack 10 meters, it will also limit the wide application of the guillotine. What about thermal weapons? At that time, the artillery used by the backward Qing army could attack 1000 meters, while the artillery used by Eight-Nation Alliance was more advanced, so the guillotine was a little behind in the attack distance. After all, it is cold weapon. Moreover, the Qing army at that time had no morale at all, and a legendary weapon could not change anything. Many Qing troops died not on the way to charge, but on the way to escape. So no matter how strong the guillotine is, it will not change anything.