Dialectical Competition: Can Money and Morality Survive? (Ask each other questions)

Masaichi: Hello, Madam President, ladies and gentlemen! Give a complete definition of this topic first. First, "money pursuit" is an effort to create wealth and accumulate benefits in order to satisfy desires. Second, "moral pursuit" refers to creating happiness for everyone based on conscience and reason. As Marx said in Ethics, the pursuit of morality is to promote the interests of the group. Third, it may be a bit sensitive to talk about this unification. But from a dialectical point of view, unity should refer to the integration of contradictory movements in time and space, which includes the sublation and destruction of both sides of the contradiction, as well as the absorption and reservation of both sides. Fourth, "unification is possible" means unification with hope, opportunity and ways. The opposing side said that reunification could not be achieved, but simply denied all such possibilities. Next, let's explain the stages and processes in which the two can be unified from different angles. First of all, according to the tradition of China, Confucius once said, "Ill-gotten wealth is as expensive as floating clouds to me", but "I can do it even though I have a whip". Mr. Wang Yangming, a great scholar in the Ming Dynasty, once told us: "It is not one's bounden duty to be a sage." This proves that the pursuit of money and morality can be unified. Secondly, as far as western thought is concerned, the great philosopher Aristotle tells us: "The greatest purpose of life is to pursue happiness, and the source of happiness lies in the satisfaction of material life and spiritual life." Sociologist Max Weber also pointed out in the book Protestant Ethics: "To realize self, capital must cooperate with its traditional ethics." In addition, we will demonstrate from socialism with China characteristics that the two can actually be unified. First, under the principle of "one center and two basic points", "reform and opening up" is the road to strengthening the country, and "four persistences" is the foundation of building the country. The dialectical unity of the two is based on the so-called economic construction. Doesn't this mean that spiritual civilization construction and material civilization construction are equally important? Secondly, Mr. Deng Xiaoping also said, "There can be neither poor capitalism nor poor so-called socialism." Today's blessing is not a sin! To sum up, we have successfully demonstrated that the pursuit of money and morality can actually be unified today, no matter from the perspective of personal life pursuit or social overall economic development. If the two cannot be unified, it means that you can't do things without money, and money without morality is definitely a bad thing! Therefore, only the pursuit of money and morality can be unified, can we create a "rich and polite" society, that is, "the whole country does business and Qi Xin works together to create wealth and strength". Thank you!

Chairman: ...

Reverse one: Thank you, Chairman! Hello, audience, judges and other debaters! First of all, I want to clarify that what I am talking about here today is not whether money and morality can be unified, nor whether money and morality can be unified. What we want to say is that "the pursuit of money and morality cannot be unified." First of all, let's see how to understand this sentence. "Pursuit" means striving for and seeking, "unification" means consistency, "money" is a symbol of money and wealth, and "morality" is the sum total of some gratifying norms that society adjusts the relationship between people and between society and individuals, and its manifestation is respect and maintenance of personal interests and social interests. "The pursuit of money" is to put the possession of wealth in the first place, get the maximum return with the least investment, and accumulate as much wealth as possible. This is obviously different from the material civilization construction mentioned by other students. "Moral pursuit" is to explore the lofty realm of kindness, justice, fairness and honesty. This not only means rejecting evil, unfair, selfish and hypocritical means of pursuing money, but also means putting the interests of others and society first, and trying to do the best and ask for the least. This is obviously different from what other students said about spiritual civilization construction. In this way, the contradiction between money pursuit and moral pursuit is not obvious? We don't mean that people who abide by morality can't get money, because we all know that money is not everything, but we can't do anything without it. In fact, most people in the world get money rationally and physically on the premise of observing morality, but this observance and acquisition does not mean what we call pursuit today, because pursuit is obviously a more exclusive and devoted state. Just because of pursuing money or morality, it means giving up another pursuit. So most people find a balance between following morality and getting money, so they won't become saints or demons. There are many people in the world who have a lot of wealth and are charitable, so have they found the unity of money pursuit and moral pursuit? That's not true. Because they get a lot of wealth, they don't pay the most, but they get the least. Since they are willing to give charity, that is, to get the maximum return with the least investment, they also find a certain balance between getting money and morality. If there is anything special about them, it is that they use what means and mentality to get money, and it is impossible to know whether their good deeds are entirely for promoting morality, so we should not make arbitrary comments. We will demonstrate our point of view from the aspects of theory, facts and value, that is, the pursuit of money and moral pursuit cannot be unified. Listen to the next decomposition.

Chairman: ...

Zhenger: Thank you, Chairman! Judges present, everyone present, hello! The friendliness of the other party seems to be trying to tell us one thing. When a person abides by honesty and credit, he has no morality and is not a moral pursuit. If I am enjoying my family and earning money outside, should I give up the pursuit of money if I put family happiness first? Ok, let's demonstrate from three aspects that "the pursuit of money and moral pursuit cannot be unified" is a wrong concept. First, as far as the relationship between money and morality is concerned, it is absurd to pursue morality without money. Therefore, if we pursue morality, "everyone seeks morality and everyone goes hungry"! Such a society is chaotic. Therefore, under the argument of the other side, society is bound to be poor and chaotic. What I want to ask my opponent here is, is our society all poor and completely chaotic? Secondly, as far as the actual situation is concerned, if the pursuit of money and morality really can't be unified, then I will ask another debater, is there no one who has a conscience and abides by the law in the pursuit of money? Finally, let's look at the current situation in Chinese mainland. After the reform and opening up, economic construction is the primary task of China. If the pursuit of money and morality cannot be unified, I would like to ask another debater, isn't it a mirage for China to transition to a capitalist society with perfect morality and rich economy? Well, we have successfully proved that "money pursuit and moral pursuit cannot be unified" is a wrong idea from three aspects: the relationship between money pursuit and moral pursuit, the current political situation and the current situation in China. No matter the traffickers and pawns in the past to the ordinary people today; Both the western capitalist welfare state principle and the idea of "all the wealth in the world under socialism" have repeatedly told us that the pursuit of money and morality should be unified. Finally, I want to ask you to touch your conscience and reason and ask yourself, if we earn money for ourselves, our families and society honestly, who can slander us? I can't, and I'm sure neither can you! Thank you!

Chairman: ...

Counter 2: Thank you, Chairman! Hello everyone! In the second debate, the other side seemed to misunderstand our position. We didn't say that people who make money have no morals. Our position is that one cannot pursue money and morality at the same time. Comrade Mao Zedong said, "Modesty makes people progress, while pride makes people fall behind." We want to say, "the pursuit of morality makes people progress, and the pursuit of money makes people fall behind." Below I will explain why moral pursuit and money pursuit cannot be unified from the theoretical level. First, as early as the 8th century/KLOC-0, scholars such as Emmenbock, the founder of conservatism, have believed that rapid industrialization and urbanization have disrupted the inherent stable social order and destroyed people's moral standards for judging good and evil, but they have been replaced by fanatical money worship and greedy competition and possession. Secondly, we should look at the views of liberal theorists. Adam Smith, the originator of market economics, believes that "the pursuit of material enjoyment cannot be the basis for understanding human moral society." He told us: "Wealth is often the product of human desire and vanity, and human desire for wealth is often uncontrollable, so the expansion of selfish desires will destroy social harmony and prevent human moral pursuit." Third, radical theorists pointedly pointed out: "The pursuit of money will bring moral decay." Swiss economist Keith Mond thinks: "In the cruel world of free competition, everything you do is those corruptions. An empty money kidnapper without shame, principle, virtue and physical heart is just a kidnapper and a liar. They can kidnap and kidnap, and they can cheat and cheat! " Fourthly, Marx further revealed the internal contradiction between the pursuit of money and the pursuit of morality. He said: "Money is a power to reverse black and white. It turns loyalty into betrayal; Turn love into hate and hate into love; Turn good into evil and evil into good; Turn the master into a slave and the slave into a master; Turn stupidity into wisdom and wisdom into stupidity. " From conservatism to liberalism to radicalism, although scholars of different schools have different views on the world, they have striking similarities in the opposition between money pursuit and moral pursuit. In front of these philosophers, other debaters also said that the pursuit of money and morality can be unified? Thank you!

Chairman:

Hello everyone! First of all, we must point out the first big mistake made by the other defense friend. This big mistake is that the other debater defines "pursuit" as "trying to explore", and it must be put in the first place to get it by hook or by crook. Please think about it. If this pursuit is called pursuit, can everyone have only one goal in life? When a person puts work first and family second, does he completely ignore family for work? Under the logic of the other side's defense, it seems that such an absurd result has been deduced. Please think it over. If we want to make money legally today, I will try to make money legally every day. Is this a desperate pursuit of the unity of money and morality? Do you put this pursuit in the first place? Can't it be unified? Next, we will demonstrate to you that money and moral pursuit can be unified from three aspects. First of all, from the theoretical level. Three students from the other side went to study in Australia from China. I don't know whether they believe in capitalism or socialism Under the condition of capitalism, Franklin said long ago: "As long as the behavior is legal, morality is the result of virtue and the expression of professional ability." Stimulated by socialism, modern capitalism began to devote itself to social welfare, and social equity was improved. This is no longer the simple pursuit of profit and exploitation of surplus value as we generally understand, but closer to the socialist concept of equality and justice. In capitalism, such a proposition can be established. Let's look at socialism again. Everyone present here should know better than the four of us that 1987 "one center, two basic points" put forward by the Thirteenth National Congress of the Communist Party of China, if taking economic construction as the center is an economic pursuit, then this pursuit is completely in line with the pursuit of socialist morality! From a practical point of view. Fan Zhongyan in ancient times, he "respected Lu Hou's contribution to the people and helped his basket with what he invested." Isn't this an example of the pursuit of reunification? You know better than we do that China Peony Electronics Group Company is not only recognized for its honesty and credibility, but also contributed to the Hope Project and the Asian Games. Did the other debater call her "hypocritical"? Is she "fishing for fame"? Third, from the perspective of value orientation, we must tell you that a society with only money and no morality is a society where people eat people, and a society with only morality and no money is a society where people starve to death. Under the framework of the opposition party, are we going to starve to death or eat people? Ask the other debater to answer directly how do we build such a society? Finally, I want to tell you that only by understanding and unifying money and morality can we meet material and spiritual needs, the construction of material and spiritual civilization can be successful, and human society can be endless ... Thank you!

Chairman: ...

Counterparty 3: Thank you, Chairman! Hello everyone! The other debater has repeatedly insisted that "the pursuit of money and morality can be unified", then you may not have heard this jingle, called; Rich men will learn badly, and women who learn badly will have money. Next, I will demonstrate our point of view again from the practical level. In fact, the contradiction between money pursuit and moral pursuit has long been conclusive since ancient times. Confucianism says: "A gentleman cares about Tao but not poverty." Mencius also said: "Life is what I want; Righteousness is also what I want. You can't have both, and those who give up their lives are also righteous. " Mencius gave up his life in pursuit of morality. If it is true that the pursuit of money and morality can be unified, and Mencius really sacrificed his life in pursuit of truth, then he must have died unsatisfied after listening to the other debater's opinion today. Chen Shimei, who has been spurned for thousands of years, can at least go back to his hometown to be a county grandfather if he doesn't pursue his infinite desire for money and fame. But it is precisely because the pursuit of money and morality can't be unified at all, so he chose wealth and abandoned the virtuous and kind Qin Xianglian. As a result, he not only lost his head, left a scar the size of a bowl, but also got an eternal stigma. Bribery, tax evasion and tax evasion emerge one after another; Robbery and theft, car bandits and road bullies are becoming more and more rampant; Prostitution, smuggling and drug trafficking have emerged; Money worship and hedonism are everywhere; Don't do the right thing, don't help when you are in trouble, don't lose everything, and get out of trouble by violence from time to time. Do we really want to say that the pursuit of money and moral pursuit can be unified in such a scene as the cotton team? At present, nothing annoys Beijing residents more than selling fake drugs. Humans originally invented drugs to cure diseases and save lives, but money worshippers hurt innocent people by selling fake drugs and are regarded as professional murderers. In fact, these people also have close friends in Taiwan Province Province. For example, a famous doctor in Taiwan Province Province was jailed for taking bribes. It can be said that "scalpels are like red envelopes, Qi Fei, and gold diggers are like prisons"! Compared with the noble medical ethics of doctors' parents, should the other debater say that the pursuit of money and morality can be unified? All the above facts confirm a famous saying of Marxism. Marx said: "If there is 50% profit, some people will take risks for it;" If there is 300% profit, some people dare to trample on morality and law, and even go to the guillotine. But another debater told us blindly and optimistically that the pursuit of money and morality could have been unified. If everyone is so blindly optimistic, who will complete the task of rectifying world morality? On whose shoulders will the burden of promoting morality fall? Thank you!

Free debate stage

Positive: Mencius said: "You can't have your cake and eat it. You have to give up your life for justice." This means that when there must be conflicts between them, Mencius did not say, "They are always in conflict, and whoever sacrifices his own life is just." The opposing debater asks you the first question. Please tell us here, when you think that the pursuit of morality and the pursuit of money cannot be unified, do you want a society that pursues money or morality? Please answer directly, thank you!

Against: What we want is a rich and moral country. Didn't we tell you during the debate?

On the positive side: The Analects of Confucius Taber tells us: "The country has a good way, but it is poor and shameful; The country has no choice but to be rich and expensive, which is shameful. " If money and morality must be opposed, wouldn't the foreign players here and all the countries here be humiliated? Selected Works of Deng Xiaoping tells us that to build socialism, we must improve productivity, and poverty is not socialism. Isn't this the blueprint for a country to be rich and expensive?

Counterparty: The other party still says that money and morality can be unified, but I haven't heard that pursuing money and morality can't be unified. The other three statements just now did not admit that pursuit is a strong pursuit, but only said that it can be a desperate pursuit. If I pursue it desperately, killing people and burning money, is it also the pursuit of morality?

Pro: The other debater, if I desperately want money to abide by the law and make money, why isn't the other debater "unified" at this time?

On the contrary: Jesus said, "It is difficult for a rich man to enter heaven, and it is also difficult for a camel to go through the eye of a needle." Christianity, Judaism, Islam and the greatest schools in western culture all believe that the pursuit of money and morality is inseparable. what do you think?

Fang: Confucius once told us: "You can ask for more happiness if you have money. Although you are a whip, I will do it. " Kong Kong believes that as long as it is in line with justice and as long as it can pursue such wealth, even as a humble person, it must be done. How do opposing debaters face such a problem?

On the contrary: Confucius also said: "A gentleman is figurative, while a villain is figurative." Does the other debater think that a person can be both a "gentleman" and a "villain"?

In favor: if the other debater wants to say far, we will say far. Confucius said this sentence, which is a factual judgment. This "gentleman" refers to the superior ruler. He told the upper rulers not only to pursue morality, but also not to pursue money excessively. In other words, the gentleman he refers to here should be the ruler of the world, and should pursue the unity of money and morality to govern the people and let them live a better life! So the opponent's debater misquoted.

Opposing party: The opposing party believes that the pursuit of money is confused with the means of production obtained by distribution according to work. According to this logic, what's the difference between an exploder who makes huge profits by hook or by crook and an ordinary worker who gets paid according to his work?

Dear: Don't forget, there may be such people in society, but there are more people who abide by the law and pay taxes honestly. Otherwise, which country can rely on people's taxes to maintain its own national operation?

Counterparty: We have long admitted that many people use reasonable means to get money while following morality, which does not mean blindly pursuing one of them. Professor: Isn't it a unity to pursue money in a moral way? Didn't Mr. Deng Xiaoping tell us that if we only talk about the spirit and don't talk about material life, it would be idealism!

Opposing party: The opposing party argues that the unity of arguments is based on dialectical unity. The other debater may not know that according to dialectical methods, good and evil are also dialectical unity. Does the other debater think that good and evil are also unified?

Pro: Another debater, are you willing to believe that money and morality can't be integrated with each other in this society, and then there will be a unified situation? How can such a society move forward? The defense friends of the other side should also know that when Mr. Deng Xiaoping answered the question of American journalist Mike Walsh, he once said: There can be neither poor capitalism nor poor socialism, and getting rich is not a sin. Then under your argument, alas! Isn't that "Amitabha, sinning" after the reform and opening up?

Opposing party: Let's give Mr. Deng Xiaoping's debate back to the other debater! I like the motto of Fu Jen Catholic University "Truth, goodness, beauty and holiness" very much. If the opponent really thinks that the pursuit of money and morality can be unified, then you don't mind if I change the motto of Fu Jen Catholic University to "truth, goodness, beauty and sacredness" and "money"!

Professor: Sorry, my rival, Fu Jen Catholic University, has the motto of "holiness, beauty, goodness and truth", but you read it backwards. Another debater further asked you ... Ah, second time, do you want people in your society to pursue money or morality? I ask you for the second time, please tell everyone directly.

Counterparty: As we said just now, we are in favor of all people getting money by ethical means, and the other party equates acquisition and being acquired with pursuit. Where is the specificity and initiative of pursuit?

In favor: The other debater said it well. Your "fox tail" is finally exposed. Today, you want everyone to obey the law and pursue money according to morality. Then I ask you again, if a person is desperate to obey the law and pursue money. At this time, the two purposes are equal. Why not call it "unification"? If it is not called "unification", what is it called? Please tell everyone.

Counterparty: The pursuit of money is to get money by hook or by crook. I want to read two sentences to each other to see if they can be unified-"I will devote my limited life to serving the people indefinitely" and another sentence "I will devote my limited life to the pursuit of money indefinitely"-can they be unified?

Founder: It turns out that the other debater wanted to tell everyone here that when you are law-abiding and diligent in making money to support your family, the other debater actually pointed to your nose and said, "In the face of material temptation, you will be blinded by selfish desires." If so, why are people different from animals? If people are animals, we would rather be a group of ants, because they at least know how to help each other and cooperate with each other.

The other party: We have repeatedly said that the other party still turned a deaf ear. We say that "reasonable" acquisition does not mean "unscrupulous" acquisition.

Pro: Argument, if "by hook or by crook" is called "pursuit", then what is "reasonable" called pursuit? What are you chasing? Please tell everyone.

Counterparty: Isn't there a more suitable example? Opponents know what pursuit is. There are five people here who are studying law. If you really want to pursue success and money, do you have to help the bad guys?

Professor: The other debater hasn't answered our question yet. We really don't know whether the other party is deliberately avoiding or not understanding. Let me ask another debater, if I use "reasonable" instead of "unscrupulous", it's not pursuit, can it be called "chasing dreams"? Please continue!

Counterparty: Excuse me, then, if you define gambling in casinos, are those who lose money and can't find the north and the south, but win money and their eyes shine, the kind of people you praise?

Professor: So we will reject and criticize that kind of person, so we will say, "Don't reach out, don't reach out, you will be caught."

Counterparty: Do other debaters think that an unscrupulous upstart and Lei Feng can be unified in one person?

Pro: My opponent, the focus of our debate today is, can our broad masses pursue money with their spirit and energy? Opposing friends, isn't it called pursuing morality that I obey the law by hook or by crook? Isn't it called pursuing money if I obey the law by hook or by crook? Another debater, what is the pursuit you said today, the bland pursuit? Please tell me again.

Opposition: Opposition confuses the difference between moral pursuit and morality. Moral knowledge conforms to social norms, and moral pursuit is a much higher value than conforming to norms, which means giving the most in exchange for taking the least. Thank you all.

Professor: We pursue the law, and we abide by social norms. Isn't that a pursuit? When I obey the law, I don't conform to the law and pursue justice, fairness and justice!

Counterparty: We repeatedly said that the pursuit was illegal, and the other classmate repeatedly said, what do you mean by not pursuing? Why do you have to use the old word "chase"? Why are words so bad?

Founder: We don't know what kind of society the other debater wants to build. The other side has been afraid to tell us that if the interests are pursued reasonably according to the laws of the country, this is not called "unification." What is this?

Opposing Party: If the pursuit of money and morality can be unified, then why does China have such a saying-"No traitors, no businessmen, no traitors"!

Pro: The other debater is still avoiding such a question. Under the idea of the opposing debater, please tell everyone how you can build such a society!

Counterparty: We seem to have answered this question many times. Under our concept, only by reasonably obtaining money according to laws and regulations can we achieve the realm of wealth and happiness.

Pro: If it is really "no business is dishonest", then I would like to ask another debater whether it is immoral to award the Outstanding Entrepreneur Award every two years.

Money is not everything, but you can't do anything without it. Some people say that money is the root of all evil, which I think is wrong. Money has no distinction between good and evil, only practicality. Therefore, as long as we do not violate the law and morality and pursue money through honest labor, there will be no contradiction. Besides, after we earn money, we can also use it for good, just like many rich people or philanthropists.

Society is an organism composed of economic structure, political structure and conceptual structure, in which conceptual structure is the skeleton of society and morality is the bone marrow. People's Network Powerful Country Community ()

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In the past, people with morality were often considered as "fools", "psychopaths" and "outcasts", but today, people with good morality have also improved their status and reputation. At the same time, who knows how much ridicule, how many tears, how much effort, how much effort there has been behind honor? Nothing is easy to succeed, and it is even more difficult when they are sincerely for others but misunderstood and despised by others. Fortunately, they all endured, did not regret their hard work, nor complained about their tiredness. They only want others to be happy, but they don't care about themselves and don't ask for anything in return. They just bear and contribute silently, and all the hidden things are not revealed. One day, they were recognized and recognized by people, and the eyes of the whole country were focused on them. There is justice in the world, good people are rewarded, and there is always a reward for giving. People's Network Powerful Country Community ()

It is human nature to have virtue. Without morality, it is immoral and human nature is lost. Although the present society is called the "money worship era" by some people, we sincerely hope that everyone will not look at the problem with short-sighted eyes and be tempted by money. If you long for peace and freedom, don't just hold high money, but hold high morality. Although morality can't be eaten as a meal, a meal with morality is definitely good! !