Why do people always ignore the Celtics' Big Three and always say that the Heat's Big Three hold a group?

As far as the giant effect is concerned, the Lakers F4, 08 Celtics Big Three and 10 Heat Big Three all belong to the group holding category. But the real peak is the Heat Big Three and the most criticized team. Secondly, Kai Zi's Big Three grabbed the tail of the peak and held a group, but Kai Zi was mostly a team operation. The Big Three kept a low profile and did not fight for any historical ranking, and fans sprayed less. Finally, F4, Marlon Payton's last career is understandable for the champion, but it's a pity that God played tricks on people.

In fact, the warrior's Adu now belongs to half of the group, partly because the other warriors are all the same people. There are many reasons why there are so many people in james blake. One of them is that they occupy too many fans. Joe fans like me really don't like to easily surpass the best player in Jordan's history to recruit James. James has his greatness and his comprehensive ability. He should be in the top ten in the history of retirement, but he really lacks that kind of perseverance and tenacity. He plays more commercial basketball and lacks the pure side of basketball.

In fact, it's understandable that 10 holds a group for the championship, but 14 left Wade, which surprised me the most and made me completely indifferent to him. I made a name for myself and crossed the river with the help of my brothers. . . The loser is: I have tried my best (that teammate CBA? )。 When Jordan lost, he said, I should play better!

Off-topic: As basketball fans, we hope to see the stars bring us more pure things: technology, spirit, personality charm and so on. Each of us has the right and freedom to pursue our goals, but if we do whatever it takes, we may get the body of fame and fortune, but lose our soul. Personal opinion, please spray lightly.

Objectively speaking, the Heat Big Three were sprayed, and Wade and Bosh were quite innocent, because the key was James. With his personal influence, James started to win the championship in the annual report group, which caused great controversy and even inevitability.

Needless to say, the Celtics' Big Three, after all, when they cooperated, all knew that the average age was over 30, which was the peak of less than two years. If you don't blog, your career is over. In particular, Garnett, the Wolf King, left the Wolves, and the fans didn't go too far. Many are blessings. After all, Wolves only brought him Castle and Sprewell for so many years, and they also led them to the Western Conference finals. Do you think Garnett said anything?

History is not without examples of the Celtic Big Three. By then, Olajuwon, Buckley and Pippen should have higher card positions than the Celtics, especially the 1.0 version of Lakers F4 (O 'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Malone and Payton). Malone and Payton signed up for the competition, which is straightforward, that is, they don't want money to win the championship. But all failed. Peyton is better. Holding O 'Neill's thigh until the heat, I finally realized my dream. Malone and Buckley were crowned for life.

The Big Three are completely different. Wade already has the crown, so there is no need to sign up for the league. Although Bosh is an all-star, he is not a top super giant. And at that time, Bosh was the first to go to the Heat, that is to say, if Wade only teamed up with Bosh at that time, they would be satisfied. One has found a strong helper and can win the championship again. The other has a more trustworthy teammate and can do more in the playoffs. Moreover, at that time, the star combination of one inside and one outside was the standard for winning the championship, so this operation really caused a great sensation at that time, but it was not abused, because the combination of Wade and Bosh was competitive, but it did not have an overwhelming advantage.

Being with James is completely different. James has led a team to the finals alone before, so his personal ability has been proved. And as soon as he joined the league, he was called the emperor, the favored son of heaven. Naturally, people have different expectations of him, hoping that he will follow Jordan's example and rule the league alone.

However, in the face of difficulties, James did not insist, but chose to take shortcuts, which violated the mainstream expectations and made his champion less convincing.

For Wade and Bosh, what was supposed to be a difficult mode suddenly changed to Easy, and customs clearance was not so cool.

Many James fans feel betrayed. Where is the good emperor? What if we agree to rule this country? Why did you suddenly change careers and become a general in another country? Is it still yours to rule the country like this?

If this story is made into a film and television drama, then such people are often tragic villains. Therefore, people who don't like James scoff even more, and people who like James are speechless for a while.

What's more, James also made a grand national live broadcast at that time, which made the whole world see the jokes of the knights. This practice is also very unkind. The three-person warm-up match is also exaggerated, just like the whole champion parade. This way is also very annoying.

So we can see that in the first year of cooperation between the three giants, the three people were actually very close. Especially James and Wade, Wade often stressed to the media that the Heat is my team, and James came to the Heat on his own initiative, not that I chose to join this group.

However, what is done is done, especially the failure to win the championship in the first year, which made the Heat three learn from the bitter experience and finally reached an agreement. Then we saw the sacrifices of Wade and Bosh. Wade gave up the core position, Bosh accepted the fact that his strength was reduced, and he became a backburner forever. James was completely released, making the three men win the championship twice.

Let's look at these two crowns again, and the biggest beneficiary is James.

Wade's historical position, the most important thing is the first championship. The last two championships are icing on the cake. Bosh is just an excellent champion, and he can't have a place in the top 50 in history.

After winning the championship, James continued to mature and even abandoned the Heat when he decided to 2.0. At this point, James's annual report group can be said to be rich and famous, but this is only a small part of his salary. Such shortcut behavior is equally hateful.

16 the fairy tale of helping the hometown team win the championship is very dreamy, but it is still what we call exquisite egoism in the bones.

Then Durant switched from Thunder to Warriors, and Owen insisted on leaving Cavaliers. To what extent was he influenced by James? The most important thing is that the Star League has become a common practice now, and he always refuses to renew his contract with the home team, which makes the suspense of the playoffs, especially the finals, smaller and smaller, and James is also responsible for a large part.

First of all, the Celtics' Big Three must be earlier than the Heat's Big Three. There is no dispute about this, but the focus of the main debate is the state of the two sides at that time. Garnett was 32, ray allen was 33 and Pierce was 365,438+0. Before going to Celtic, the three men could still get about 20 points per game, but it should not be ignored that the three men have reached the end of their peak and their state will decline.

On the other hand, James is 26, Wade is 28 and Bosh is 26. It can be said that all three are at their peak, and they are still rising. Therefore, these three people held a group and also created a summit group. Of course, the players' own choices are beyond our control, but the impact of this incident has continued until now.

After all, Garnett, ray allen and Pierce all fought in their original teams for about 65,438+00 years. As fans, they naturally don't want to see such veterans retire with regrets, so after the three of them won the championship, they basically congratulated them, and few people would question them.

This is also why when people talk about the Big Three, they always say that the Big Three is the Peak Group. There is also the Celtics Big Three being traded by the team, and the players basically have no choice. Needless to say, the Heat Big Three. Everyone has the right to choose, and of course, if you choose, you will be responsible for the consequences.

In such a hurry to whitewash James? Heat that is the three giants of the newspaper group, James 25, Bosch 26 and Wade 28. When the MVP of that season joined other teams, was there anyone else in history? In the heyday of the three teams in the East, James mvp, Wade League Top 5- 10, Bosh 1 1- 15. What is the age of the Celtic Big Three? Pierce 30, Garnett 3 1, ray allen 32, the old Zhan you call, are already a group of out-and-out veterans. I don't know where you found it. Only one of the Celtics' Big Three Garnett was selected for the two teams, and the Heat was James Wade. James planned the Big Three, and ray allen was traded by the Sonics to make room for Durant. It took Kai Zi half a team and several years of draft picks to get Garnett. What about the heat? It was almost a white wolf with empty gloves, and then the knight was forced into reconstruction.

Because the Celtic community is a team behavior.

Before this, it was not that no team would form the Big Three, but most of them were team behaviors.

For example, the three giants of the Lakers in the 1980s: Abdel-Gabbar came from the Bucks, and James Worthy "stole" from the Cavaliers to sign the first prize;

Bird, the Celtics' Big Three, was signed in the draft, and Chief Robert parrish was traded.

However, at that time, it was mainly a trading star, not a group after success.

You have to say that there is also a complete group, and the rockets also hold a group. Glider, Big Dream, Buckley, Big Dream, Buckley and Pippen all belong to the Big Three.

Including the later OK dynasty, rick fox was at least a star, and he was the captain of the Celtics. He resolutely defected to the Lakers.

Not to mention the F4 behind the Lakers.

Back to the question, did the Celtics come voluntarily?

Garnett may have been persuaded by mchale, but ray allen was completed by the Supersonic without saying anything.

This kind of transaction that is not controlled by the player is relatively better. At least fans don't resent it.

Many times, when the team can't complete the requirements of winning the championship and the core players need to pursue the championship, the team has only two ways.

First, help him trade to adapt to his role as a player or helper and help him win the championship.

Second, choose to let go, change him to a place that suits him or can help him win the championship, and trade him to leave.

Garnett belongs to the second category. The situation of the Timberwolves at that time, whether the team's economic situation or the future player reserve, was not enough to help Garnett win the championship, so the team decided to let go and let Garnett win the championship.

Ray allen belongs to another project. At that time, the Sonics were arguing with the Arena and Seattle. The boss wants to sell the team. If you want to sell the team at a good price, you'd better hoard more draft picks.

There is no point in having a well-paid and older player who has no practical role in the team. Take advantage of the high price and hurry.

In this way, after paying a lot of handsome young people, the Celtics bought Garnett and ray allen to form the Big Three.

And they were all flawed players at the time. Pierce was the main scorer of the team, but there were too many players who could score at that time, and Pierce couldn't be ranked.

Ray allen is old, from getting up early to being a three-point shooter, and his actual utility is greatly reduced;

The only dominant player is Garnett, but he is eccentric and has a bad record of beating his teammates. It's hard to say whether he can adapt to the team.

Three people belong to the stage of continuing to fight if they can fight, and retiring if they can't. People's attitude towards them is not that bad.

But what about the heat? This is the peak, or the player at the peak chooses a free agent to join, which in itself is a very "terrorist" behavior. It is equivalent to the team earning two top ten players in the league for nothing, and one of them is still the top two in the league. That's a p.

James Wade turned the Heat from a playoff team into a team that can reach the finals. With Bosch, that's to make it to the finals. Of course, players and fans from other teams will also curse their mothers.

If not.

James and Bosh will go to the Heat, but Bosh and Wade will come to the Cavaliers. Maybe James's comments won't get worse.

After all, if Bosh and Wade, the top ten players in the league, come to the Cavaliers, it is a more legitimate behavior for James to use his influence and dominance to recruit other excellent players.

And you, the top two players in a league, have "jumped ship" to another team and broadcast the news of your resignation live on the whole network. What do you think fans will think?

If Durant didn't come out to "block the gun" later, James would eventually return to the Cavaliers. I wonder what he will be hacked into now.

Let's talk about personal status first. The golden age of these three people in the Celtic period has passed more than half. Ray allen's golden age was in Sonics and Bucks, and Garnett did his best in Timberwolves. Careful old fans can see the clue by looking at the performance of Celtic Big Three. Playing style is different from before. Ray allen used to hit more than three points and break through the dunk, otherwise he wouldn't have participated in the dunk contest when he was young, and Kevin could have both inside and outside during the Timberwolves. There were not many versatile parents in that period, but by the time of Celtic, they basically lost their ability to bounce continuously. The basic technology is CIC, and Pierce is also an all-around striker. He is not a member of the air force. Although I dunked with Carter in college, I was already playing with my ass during the Big Three period. Let's talk about the attitude of fans to them first. Garnett's fans are crazy, too There were not a few fans who liked him in those years, but during his group, fans hung banners. Come on, Kevin, win the championship. Every time I return to the home of the Timberwolves, everyone doesn't boo him. Ray allen, to be honest, there are far fewer fans than Kevin, but they don't boo. Everyone knows that you have done your best for the city, and the fans are grateful. Fans are not demented. After talking about Celtic and James, I won't say much. The summit of the summit was held and the decision was announced by espn live broadcast. What do you want Cleveland fans to think? So all kinds of jerseys were burned and all kinds of boos were checked by others. Needless to say, there is no comparison between these two parties. To sum up, one is for honor and the other is for vanity.

This problem is easy to explain:

First, let's take a look at the background when they teamed up. Garnett has been unable to enter the playoffs in the Timberwolves for three consecutive seasons, and ray allen's Sonics have not reached the playoff threshold for two consecutive seasons. Pierce's Celtics are barely playoff. Moreover, ray allen was 32 years old, Garnett was 365,438+0 years old, and Pierce was 30 years old. In fact, they are no longer at their peak, and they are beginning to show signs of decline. Three 30-year-old prospective veterans left them little time, so they chose to get together and fight once.

Who are the Big Three? Wade, 28, James and Bosh, 26, are all at the peak of their golden age. At the age of 26, they still have plenty of time to lead their team to chase the championship, but they choose to hold a group at this time. This shortcut will naturally be controversial. Another difference is that the Cavaliers led by James have always been a strong team in the East. If the strength of the top three continues to strengthen, there may be no hope of winning the championship Timberwolves obviously don't have this strength. After choosing Durant, Supersonic will rebuild around Du, so naturally it can't participate in the reconstruction.

When the Celtics Big Three held a group, their age, strength, popularity and other aspects were not as good as those of the Heat, and there was actually a gap in sensational effect. Moreover, the strength of the Green Army after their group formation is not obvious, because the overall age of the team is too large, so the suspense of winning the championship is still great. For example, in the first two rounds of the playoffs that season, it was 4-3.

And the Heat's three giants fought at the peak, which directly opened their strength with other teams by more than one grade. Only the Mavericks in the first year and the Spurs in the fourth year beat them, but in fact only the Spurs have the ability to beat them, which greatly reduces the excitement of the NBA.

Another, the way they teamed up gave the latecomers a bad start, which directly caused the situation of today's warriors. The strong are stronger, and no one can stop them.

What Garnett said to James: Loyalty sometimes hurts you! In fact, this sentence is problematic. Garnett's timberwolves are fish bellies, and James's knights are weak? Obviously not! Not Black James, but his decision is doomed to be a flaw in his life. Of course, the appearance of Durant's later decision made James's decision obviously less black spots.

The above content is only on the topic, and there is no black meaning.

There is a simple reason. The world will always respect true villains and despise hypocrites.

Our generation, basically, began to watch the NBA after the last three consecutive championships. These stars we are familiar with, the four centers, only the general will die in the home team; It's a once-in-a-lifetime experience that drivers stay for almost 20 years and bring one or more championships to the home team. We are more familiar with the tragedies of Miller, Malone, Buckley, Ewing, and stockton, who lived without a crown for life and even were displaced in their later years. This is also what we don't want to see.

Wolf king high school entered the NBA. He has played for the home team for more than ten years in the year he left, which is enough and worthy of the home team. Go out and win a championship. Timberwolves fans are all blessed. I didn't tell the fans that I wouldn't leave, just like others, I returned to the Heat. Run and run, just admit it. Everyone wants to win the championship. Why make up an excuse to find a brother? Was the archway built in Gao Qian? Two years later, your brother's knee failed. Who the fuck gave up? Not brothers at this time? Fucking genetic mutation? Which wild dog did this? The funniest thing is that lies can be told over and over again. Go back and say no, and leave two years later, just because I like the market in Los Angeles. Just admit that everyone likes money. It's nothing. We are neither perpetual motion machine nor mint machine, but what we despise most is hypocritical hypocrites. Look at these celebrities. Do you think highly of someone? Of course, a large part of this pot is to grade all imperial secretaries. Don't try your best every day, teammates CBA and so on. This is simply recruiting your master.

Of course, as a former Yao Mai fan who has no home team and is a neutral spectator, I would like to express my views on someone's career for more than 30 years. The top five in history is not a big problem, but compared with the honor of the top five in NBA history, I suggest that he consider going into politics after retiring and participate in the US presidential election to realize the life leap of the first athlete from stamps to the White House. It's easier to surpass Jordan that way. After all, leadership is always right.

Why were the Celts so strong in 2008? Five all-star players, and the coaching staff is even more luxurious!

Speaking of the luxurious lineup in NBA history, everyone will think of the Bulls with Jordan, Pippen and Rodman and the Lakers F4 with O 'Neill, Kobe Bryant, Malone and Payton. To tell the truth, although their lineup is luxurious, it is not a champion. After all, Malone and Payton were too old at that time, and Rodman was just a freak with strong defense and rebounding, but now the league is different, such as Durant, Owen and Harden of the Nets, who are all offensive.

It can be said that this has become the atmosphere in the league now. Before them, there were the peaks of James, Wade and Bosh. Many people think that the three of them started a group and are the ancestors of the group. In fact, James did this because he was suppressed by the Celtics all the year round in the playoffs, so in order to beat the Celtics, he chose the Celtics' team mode against the Celtics.

In 2007, the Celtics got Garnett from the Timberwolves, and then ray allen. Together with Pierce, he formed the Big Three team and won the finals in the first year. After that, he entered the finals twice in three years. In the 2007-08 season, Celtic can be said to have a very strong lineup. How strong is it? Let's talk together.

Five all-star players

First of all, how excellent the Celtics' lineup is. Their insider is a combination of Garnett and Perkins. Although Perkins is a blue-collar insider, he is very powerful, and that era is the era of digging insiders. Because he can't hold it at all, he has become a nightmare for many insiders. Garnett averaged 22.4 points 12.8 rebounds 4. 1 assists 1 steals 1.6 blocks a season before joining the Celtics. Garnett is one of the strongest inside players in the league and an all-star player.

On the front line, Pierce averaged 25 points, 5.9 rebounds and 4 assists 1 steals in the 2006-07 season. He is also an all-star player, and ray allen is a shooting guard. Before joining the Celtics, he averaged 26.4 points, 4.5 rebounds and 4 assists 1.5 steals a season. To be honest, ray allen was the most sacrificed among the trio, but even so, it is incomprehensible that he was isolated by Rondo. Then the substitute swingman is Tony Allen, a player of the six-time best defensive team, who averaged 1 1.5 points 1.5 steals last season.

On the point guard, it's an alien castle. Castle was once an All-Star. Before joining the Celtics, he averaged 17.2 points and 6.3 assists per game, and his three-point shooting rate was as high as 37%, which was excellent. Although Rondo has not been selected as an All-Star yet, his talent has been seen. Rondo got 10.6 points and 5 assists10.7 steals this year. Later, he was selected as an All-Star and got an assist.

We can look at the Celtics' lineup at that time: Garnett+Pierce+ray allen, three All-Stars who are still at their peak, Cassel, the top point guard who was selected as an All-Star, and Rondo, the future star. They have five All-Stars! In addition, there are fierce players like Tony Allen and Perkins, whose strength is quite terrible.

This team plays team basketball.

This year, under the leadership of Pierce, Garnett and ray allen, the Celtics achieved the first record in the league with 66 wins 16 losses. They ruined the Rockets' 22-game winning streak in the regular season, winning streak 19, and even swept the Southwest Division. At that time, the Southwest Division was quite scary. Yao Mai's Rockets, Nowitzki's lone ranger and Duncan's Spurs were all the top five teams in the West, and they were all defeated by the Celtics.

The Celtics are so strong because they play team basketball instead of superstar basketball. Because there are three top stars in the team, they are bound to be double-teamed. At this time, there will be opportunities to be open or down. Other players will seize this opportunity, and the ball holder is willing to divide the ball. In this way, they played a very smooth team attack. Pierce, who scored the highest average in the regular game, scored only 19.6, and Garnett, the second, scored 18.

On the defensive end, they are also cooperating. Garnett is the defensive soul of this team. He laid a tough tone for the Celtics with a tough and comprehensive defense. The defensive barrier composed of him, Tony Allen and Rondo made many outside players even more unhappy, including Kobe Bryant, who was beaten several times against Celtic. In the finals, Kobe also fell at the feet of the Big Three of the Green Army.

The coaching staff is equally strong.

Having said that, let's talk about why the Celtics have such excellent team basketball and defense. This is all because they have excellent coaching staff. Head coach Rivers is good at team basketball attack, so is assistant gentry. Tyrone Lu is good at coaching star offense, and the defense assistant is a handsome guy like Spurdu. Such a coaching staff is hard to succeed!

The Celtics are 24 wins and 58 losses, and their record is at the bottom of the East.

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Timberwolves 32 wins and 50 losses

At the end of their career and at the beginning of their group, most people felt that "God finally compensated them".

Look at the later old Zhan, and now Durant (no wonder he usually carries a schoolbag, which is really a student's emotional intelligence).