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What if I am forced to leave the company?
You only need to do the following, even if the company makes things difficult for you, you don't need to be afraid:
1, unite all those who make things difficult for them and have the right to collective condemnation. The labor arbitration bureau will stand on your side;
2. Go to work on time, take records, punch in, and it is best to save the evidence yourself;
3. Join hands with those who have difficulties and hire lawyers to negotiate with the company;
The company is still screwing you, which not only shows that the company leaders have poor moral conduct, but also shows that IQ is worrying.
In today's society, the labor law is very supportive of the working people. In other words, if you go to work normally, it is almost impossible for the company to fire you without losing money.
So you just need to collect enough evidence, and even many people will cooperate with you to collect and give evidence, so the company will lose money if it receives it.
Then, in the case of such a high probability of losing, it is foolish to make such a farce, and it is foolish to shoot yourself in the foot.
Of course, if you want to stay and work, it's really difficult and tiring!
In short, remember!
Reasonable evidence collection, taking pictures of things that make things difficult for you, recording your attendance at work, and uniting everyone's strength to arbitrate will basically give you a satisfactory compensation result, don't be afraid!
It is suggested to go to arbitration, and you can use mobile phone evidence when you go to arbitration.
When recording HR talking with you, he will definitely tell you: "I suggest you sign a voluntary resignation agreement, so that we will issue a resignation certificate." Without the resignation certificate, you can't work in the next unit ... If you don't sign the resignation agreement, your job will be squeezed ... "
This passage must be recorded first, which is a very powerful proof.
After the screenshot of work isolation is disconnected, you look for technical treatment, and the technical response is slow, which is isolation evidence;
You take the initiative to ask the boss for a job, but the boss ignores it, and then you can take a screenshot;
Of course, if you think the screenshot is not formal enough, you can send an email, which will be kept for a long time and more convincing.
At the same time, you can use legal forensics tools to support videos/pictures, that is, there is no problem with screenshots.
None of these forensics tools are very expensive, and only a few tens of dollars for 100.
Stick to work, stick to punching in every day, and make a good record of punching in. OA system generally has a punch record, which proves that you are at work.
If you don't go to work, it means that the company can fire you, so it is absolutely impossible not to punch in.
Everything should be normal anyway.
Don't be influenced by emotion, and don't destroy it. If the company does this, you will definitely be unhappy. But you can't be influenced by emotions. At this time, you should calm down and strive for your best interests.
If damage is done at this time, you may have to pay compensation or even leave.
At this time, you need to keep the evidence that is beneficial to you and prepare for arbitration or prosecution. This is the right thing. Previously, programmers deleted libraries and ran away, but they were quickly caught.
This kind of thing, since the company decided to solve the problem of layoffs by rogue means, it has already thought of the worst consequences, and most of them may not be able to operate. So as a job seeker, there are actually only two ways to choose. One way is to save energy, sign a resignation agreement with the company as soon as possible and find a new job as soon as possible; Another way is to fight the company to the end, holding your disgusting attitude towards me, and I am more disgusting than you.
Employees who have been in the company for a long time can choose to resist and actively defend their rights for a period of time. Even if it is a normal layoff compensation, employees can at least enjoy the N+ 1 scheme, so employees who have worked in the company for more than three years should receive compensation for at least four months. In this case, don't compromise with the company easily. After all, the immediate interests are here.
The company just comes up with some disgusting ways, whether it's disconnecting the internet or not arranging work or something else. You mind your own business and I will go to work on time. Even if the punch card machine is removed, it doesn't matter if the fingerprints are deleted. Just take a video with your mobile phone as evidence when you go to work every day, and you can also join some colleagues as witnesses. In this case, since you don't fire me, it's the company's own problem that you don't arrange work when I go to work. If you don't pay your salary on time, go directly to labor arbitration. In the end, 80% of you didn't do anything, and the company had to pay you.
Of course, that's the same sentence. Since the company has used this shameless means, 80% of all preparations are still sufficient, and the attitude may be stubborn, that is, no matter what you do, I will not actively implement labor arbitration. In this case, we must think about whether to fight a protracted war.
If you have been in the company for less than 2 years, you can choose to leave quickly and find a better job as soon as possible. If you have been in the company for less than 2 years, even if you are expelled from the company, you may only get 2.5 months compensation at most. Time cost needs to be calculated carefully. After all, if the company really wants to spend money, even if the labor arbitration wins, it may take a long time, which is why employees are always in a weak position in labor disputes in China.
In this case, it is probably more cost-effective to handle the resignation formalities quickly, find a new job as soon as possible and start a new job than to wait for this compensation. Of course, sometimes companies go too far, and employees don't just pay for it, sometimes it's just for that tone.
In short, in this kind of incident, the first choice is persistence. After all, enterprises can't keep spending. As long as they don't catch anything, go to work on time and don't violate the rules and regulations of the company, there is nothing the company can do. Not only can you save money for compensation, but you also have to pay employees on time and not arrange work. In the end, it depends on who can't carry it.
Strong inside, go to work as usual.
1. First of all, the company's practice is illegal. He is the one who broke the law. There's nothing wrong with you. There's no need to be nervous. Go to work as usual.
You must punch in when you go to work. You can't get caught by the company and not do anything for you. You just sit in your seat and read. Don't make trouble, don't get angry. After sitting for a long time, the company will naturally talk to you. Because of where you sit, the company has to pay as usual, and you have to pay every day you do it. You didn't do anything, not because of you, but because of the company
If the company talks to you and you don't agree, he will ask you what conditions you need, and you will see what conditions he offers and what conditions are illegal and unreasonable. Ignore him and stick to work. If you have to make conditions, you can make an offer according to the labor law. If the company doesn't agree, you can continue to work.
What if the company moves your office? Then you sit at the front desk, can't sit still, just walk around, and of course pay attention to your job opportunities. If you look around the company, it will definitely be unbearable and will talk to you again. At this time, you will put forward your requirements according to the labor law. If the company doesn't agree, you will be fired, then you can apply for labor arbitration, and your salary will be calculated until the day when the contract is terminated.
5. If the company asks someone to beat you, you will call the police and the police will deal with it. You must have left your job at this time, so you can only go to labor arbitration. If you are threatened to sign an agreement, if the agreement is not in compliance, you must never sign it.
In short, don't panic, don't make trouble, stick to the law, and you will definitely win your legitimate rights and interests.
Shen: founder of traffic multiplication marketing agency, founder of 5.26 live broadcast corps, since the media 10 years old.
The company laid off employees and signed a voluntary resignation agreement without compensation. Those who didn't sign were deliberately made things difficult, disconnected from the internet and didn't arrange work. What can be done?
First of all, let's look at the reasons why the company does this. It's simple. No matter what causes the company to lay off employees, this way is extremely bad, mainly because it doesn't want to give compensation and save costs.
But in fact, this is the most confusing move. If we take the arbitration procedure, the company will lose 100%. Although it will take a little time, in the end, I lost my wife and soldiers, which also damaged the company's reputation in the industry.
Secondly, should employees compromise when they encounter such a thing? Uncle Samadhi's view is that if you are a new employee, even if you have paid compensation, you won't have two dollars, so there is no need to spend that mood and time. Just leave early.
If an old employee still has a few months' salary after paying compensation, then I think, don't compromise, just spend some time, for fear that you can't handle it yourself, you can entrust a lawyer or apply for legal aid at the labor department (most labor departments now have legal aid windows).
Since the company did such a disgusting thing first, there is no reason for it to succeed so easily. It is really unreasonable for such a poor company not to let him learn his lesson.
What better way to protect rights? If such a thing happens, it is certain to apply for arbitration and win the case. It is nothing more than delaying some time, and secondly, there must be sufficient evidence.
Unscrupulous companies bully employees who don't know much about relevant laws and regulations and are unwilling to delay time, so that they blatantly violate laws and regulations.
So when we encounter such a thing, the most important thing is to fix the relevant evidence, and then complain to the labor department and apply for arbitration. If you don't understand or don't want to run around, let's get together and find an attorney, spend a little money, and don't let the unscrupulous boss succeed.
In addition, you can also find media exposure, use your own media channels to expose this bad behavior, and put some pressure on the company through the public, but you must remember to seek truth from facts, don't exaggerate and don't make rumors.
In short, sometimes it is good to be kind to people, but it can't be too good, otherwise it will encourage bad style. We should believe that this society is still fair and just. When our legitimate rights and interests are harmed, we must bravely take up legal weapons to safeguard our due rights and interests.
The workplace will start to analyze you deeply again: as long as you have a little brain, you will know that you can't leave your job voluntarily. If you leave voluntarily, there will be no compensation, because you signed it yourself and there will be no reason to go; The company deliberately made things difficult. If it is too difficult and the evidence is retained by the employees, it can still be arbitrated.
Weighing compensation and your time cost, everyone has to make a big decision whether to spend it or not! 1. Unilateral layoffs of enterprises must be compensated!
Since you said "layoffs". Formal layoffs are very complicated for the company, and it is even necessary to notify the trade union and file with the relevant departments. So I can basically judge that the "layoffs" you mentioned here are not formal layoffs at all, but the company itself wants to "drive away some employees."
Whether it's formal layoffs or the company's own "playboy". It is very, very difficult to terminate the employee's labor contract without the fault of the employee, and compensation must be given, even if the employee does not renew the contract, the labor contract should be terminated. The staff must know this!
2, enterprises can not torture employees indefinitely!
According to the existing regulations, the company cannot unilaterally torture employees indefinitely, such as sending a technical engineer to clean the toilet and a financial manager to be the front desk. Because the company believes that "employees are incompetent" is to provide evidence, even if "employees are incompetent", the company must give training.
Of course, the existing enterprises like to torture their employees with "personal insults", such as the leaders giving their employees crazy shoes to wear, making employees make a fool of themselves in public at every turn, and deliberately arranging jobs that employees are not good at. In short, everything is just a goal, so that employees can resign voluntarily!
Three important aspects that employees must recognize! 1, enterprises do have advantages!
General enterprises have rich contacts and resources in the local area, and enterprises also have very good legal resources. If the scale of the enterprise is large (judging from the operation in the title, the scale of the enterprise should be small, and large enterprises will not use this low-end operation mode), it is difficult to grasp the favorable handle for the measures taken by themselves.
2. Employees should not be caught by enterprises!
Don't be caught by the enterprise at this time! The most typical ones are emotional absenteeism, excessive actions and behaviors, damage to company equipment and so on. At this time, you must be calm, have a big smile on your face and go to work on time. Sit in a daze without arranging work!
3. Employees should pay attention to retaining evidence!
At this point, don't have any other illusions! The retained evidence must be kept. If it can be copied, it should be copied. If it can be photographed, it should be taken. If it can use higher-end equipment and instruments, it should be used. In short, the more evidence you save, the better for you.
Summary: 1 What should you do? Be aware that your advantage is time!
If you can persist, you will win! Because you persist for one month, the company will give you one month's salary, and if you persist for one year, the company will give you one year's salary. Such a simple thing! Moreover, it will be a headache for the company to have such "negative energy" employees stay in the company every day!
2. Be sure to stick to it and don't take the initiative to leave!
Never sign a voluntary resignation agreement! Don't talk too much, and don't try to show that you will leave voluntarily. In short, don't talk much and don't sign without compensation! Be careful of any document you sign, because it may be a "pit".
Make sure you don't make mistakes.
Enterprises can dismiss employees because they "violate the company's rules and regulations and cause great losses to the company", so during this period, they must go to work on time, keep a good mood and don't make mistakes! In fact, the company likes employees to make mistakes at this time. Some companies will also "check criminal records", that is, look forward to your black material!
4. Keep as much evidence as possible.
The more evidence you have, the more likely you are to win! It's no use telling the truth without evidence. As long as you are ready to consume it. So from now on, you should pay attention to your words and deeds, and at the same time keep all the evidence that you "worked hard in this company" and "the company let employees leave without reason".
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This kind of company is unscrupulous, and the behavior of treating employees is illegal and overbearing everywhere. To tell the truth, ordinary employees really have no good way to deal with it. They may only leave with a grudge, and even if there is a way, they will only defend their rights through formal legal channels. However, safeguarding rights requires time, energy and money, and ordinary employees simply can't afford it, so they are finally forced to leave a way. Unless employees are also very strong and have the financial resources and determination to spend with the company, then hiring a lawyer to guide rights protection will definitely win, but it will cost a lot.
As far as your company is concerned, employees are required to sign a voluntary resignation agreement. If you don't sign, you will be disconnected and you will not arrange work. Everyone around wants to get rid of employees for free. This kind of company is generally a company with irregular management. When your employees face this kind of company behavior, if they don't want to leave for free, they must fight the company to the end.
If you want to fight with the company, the general coping strategy is to collect evidence of illegal layoffs, and then apply for labor arbitration or even file a labor lawsuit. Let's discuss the key nodes and practices in detail.
I think employees must do the following three things, which are the basic requirements for safeguarding rights:
Before employees defend their rights, it is best to terminate the labor contract with the company in order to clearly claim compensation. When an employee proposes to terminate the labor contract, he must write the Notice of Compulsory Termination of the Labor Contract, and clarify the legal basis of the employee. At the same time, employees should clearly state in the notice what illegal acts exist in the company and what specific labor laws and regulations you are forced to terminate the contract, and then ask the company to pay economic compensation according to specific laws and regulations. In this way, you will have a better opportunity to defend your rights.
In a word, it seems very troublesome to say so much above, not to mention the specific implementation, so I don't recommend it if employees don't have enough psychological preparation and financial support, or if they haven't worked in this company for a long time (for example, just a few months or a year or two). Unless employees are psychologically prepared and have the financial resources to spend with the company, or employees have worked in this company for a long time (for example, 10 years or more), then this can be considered.
In March this year, we just experienced various threats. We are civil servants, but we are arranged to be porters in other places, working night shift 12 hours. The company is afraid that we will seize the handle, let us be porters to send emails through individuals, and threaten to send messages through the leadership assistant, saying that if we don't automatically draft the resignation workflow within the specified time, then we will be porters, and we will be treated as absenteeism if we don't move the goods! Absenteeism for three days is treated as automatic resignation! Moreover, it also threatens us that the punching address of the attendance punching machine will be assigned to the outfield, even if we come to work in the company every day, we can't punch in. Then I was forced to leave my job because I was pregnant, and now I am unemployed at home waiting for the baby to be born! I want to sue the company in the past, but I don't have the money to go through the proceedings with the company! So everyone in our department chose to give up! This company is a logistics company. The one whose express delivery was destroyed now only does express delivery business! ! ! !
As a post-90s generation, every time I encounter similar problems, I really don't advise employees to hire lawyers, go to arbitration or fight with enterprises. However, I have met many post-90s in my life, and I like to fight with the company, perhaps for relief.
Coordinates in Shanghai, I have a former colleague, with a monthly salary of 8,000, who offered to leave the company. The company kept her and she asked for a raise 1 10,000. The company reduced its price to 9000. As a result, she kept resigning, and her next job gave her 1 10,000. But the next family needs to work overtime, and our company doesn't need to work overtime. Her circle of friends often gets off work at three or four in the morning.
A year later, she suddenly contacted me and said, let me give her a new certificate of resignation from our company. The company can't make up the separation certificate. I can't help her. Out of curiosity, I asked her why she wanted a certificate of separation. I just found out that she is going to sue her current company, saying that the company does not give overtime pay. She worked overtime for more than 800 hours. The company refused to admit that they worked overtime, so it changed an HR to screw them, instead of arranging them for work, arranging them for holidays, and only paying them a basic salary. Don't fire them, just wait for them to leave voluntarily.
Let's just say the result: when I contacted her again, she had left Shanghai and returned to her hometown. I guess she may never want to come to Shanghai again, because the lawsuit failed because of insufficient evidence. She didn't have a job at home, and then she got pregnant, so I didn't contact her again.
Back to your topic, can't you use this time to find a job? The company just won't arrange a job for you or pay you. Why do you just want the other party to fire you and then make it up to you to find a job again? Don't compete, adjust your state and find a new home. This is the most practical method.
Let me talk about my past experience. I learned the trick in Unit 2. That year, three people were excluded by the leaders for no reason. Come on, let's talk it over. In fact, we shouldn't ask one of them to give advice and take the lead. We followed suit. He first gave a low performance award, and then found any reason to give it low. Then the vicious man started playing every day and finally scared our manager. Finally, I tried to throw a stone at him, which scared the manager into losing two months' money and leaving. The second malicious person saw it and began to work hard. Because we are Party B and also belong to the outsourcing unit, the second person started to provoke Party A's people. If you provoke me, I will provoke Party A. I will fall in love with the female leader of Party A and report to the male leader of Party A, scaring our manager to talk to him and say that you should stop working in the next few months. When did he get a job and leave? Then this guy stayed for half a year and left. Then when he came to us, he also began to provoke Party A, and then we called in sick directly, accidentally fell down in the computer room or power station to count as work-related injuries, and later paid us two months' money to beg us to leave. I want to say, for people with poor character, you must be tougher than him. When you become a villain, you will find that the world is full of good people.
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