Which do you like better than Gree, Haier and Dong Mingzhu?

I want to express my views on this issue. I have been in contact with refrigerators, air conditioners and televisions for 28 years. At that time, my workshop was a Toshiba brand made in Japan, and it was called Changling ariston Libo Haier made in Tianjin. Most of them are imported, and the refrigerators and air conditioners of Xinfei include Chunlan, Songri and Panasonic. Later, refrigerators, freezers and TV air conditioners in Qingdao Haier were discovered. I came from home appliance maintenance, Haier is a state-owned enterprise, and the maintenance rate of TV and refrigerator air conditioners in Haier is quite high. Judging from Zhang Ruimin's strategy, his vision is the best in the world, and he is the originator of the mode from management to service quality in the same industry. The appearance of Gree is well known. Going abroad is beyond our comprehension. From the tradition of products to innovation, each has its own coquettish characteristics. It is our pride in China to go abroad from scratch and let the world know that the quality of China's products is no worse than that of any other country. Compared with Gree, Haier has its own advantages. Haier set up a factory early and set an example of after-sales service. Later, it became the object and model for more China enterprises to compete, which was unparalleled. I am very concerned about Haier, and I like Gree very much. They are the grandfathers of my learning and innovation. I wish the motherland more enterprises like Haier and Gree to win glory for our country, and I wish China stronger! ! !

Haier had the same idea as Dong Mingzhu 0/5 years ago, that is, to make chips from China. But it ended in failure. It is an amazing feat for Gree to pick up the dream of that year again today.

Haier's air-conditioning experience may be unlucky, newly bought three repairs or digital symbols will appear, and Dong Mingzhu's Dasong products are not ideal after the experience. I finally chose oaks. In fact, the technology of air-conditioning refrigerator has already passed the test. Chunlan left, right? Others have been used for decades.

Dong Mingzhu exaggerates his products. Everything is his own, but the chip is not his own. So I want to make potato chips.

I admire Haier and Gree, at least I know what I need to do. Now that Gree has money, I hope the chip will come out.

As long as the chip is made, it can be used in other fields, and domestic household appliances will catch up with all household appliances.

Support Haier and Gree. At least they were and are doing what they should do.

I hope more enterprises like Haier Gree can make money not only for China people, but also for the world.

There is no comparability. The poor quality of Haier is an open secret. Neither electrical appliances nor houses are good. Haier accepts the service. If there is a problem, it will go to your home to repair it. By the way, it is also helpful for you to repair other household appliances. Haier is, although our products are not good, they will be repaired if they are broken, so that you are not afraid of product failures.

Gree is an excellent engineering student. He develops his own production and pursues his own quality. In terms of development, it must be Gree.

Haier is a thing of the past. Don't expect Haier. Haier relies on Qingdao government. How much can electrical appliances earn? The government gives priority to selling potential land to Haier Hisense, and real money is real estate.

It only says that the after-sales services of the two companies are different.

I bought a fully automatic washing machine five years ago.

Delivery after buying the machine;

Haier company * * * call back three times:

1, Q: Has the goods arrived yet? The service attitude of delivery personnel is as follows

What? How is the handover going?

2. Q: How about unpacking? installation and trial run

Are you satisfied?

3. Q: Are you satisfied with the washing machine after use?

I answered them one by one, expressing my satisfaction.

I bought a Gree 1 split air conditioner last year.

After three reminders and four reminders, I arranged for someone to help me install it.

Installing the air conditioning base is free of charge. However, if the main engine is hung on the external wall, the overhead operation fee is 1OO yuan; Main frame 80 yuan (stainless steel); Snow tube through the wall hole, beautiful hole price 50 yuan, the poor are free.

It's just that my home doesn't need to hang the external wall and install air conditioning on the main frame, and it doesn't need beautiful holes. Therefore, this customer does not need to spend a penny to install the air conditioner, which is basically free of charge (in fact, the unit price of the purchase machine already includes the installation fee).

After installation and use, several problems were found:

1, when the outdoor temperature is 35℃, the indoor unit sets the temperature.

26℃, after 1, 5 hours of refrigeration operation, room

The internal machine shows 26℃, but the main machine can't stop automatically.

Machine status. (It's been like this all summer)

2. The steering of several blades of the main engine is counterclockwise. this

Is this turn correct?

Because the master who came to my home to decorate the air conditioner charged me a penny, I contacted the above questions by phone, but these masters were not interested in answering them. If the machine can be cooled after installation, it will be fine.

Zong Shang said: Our customers feel that the after-sales service of Haishan is much better than Gree! !

I don't know how you understand. The Haier I understand should be Haier Group. Qingdao Haier (600690), which is now listed on the A-share market, is only a subsidiary of Haier Group. The current chairman and general manager is Liang Haishan. There are still many assets of Haier Group that have not been loaded into Qingdao Haier. Gree should be Gree Electric (00065 1), and the current chairman and general manager is Dong Mingzhu, not Gree Group. Gree Group is the major shareholder of Gree Electric, and it also owns a listed company, gree real estate (600 185). In fact, Gree Electric has no affiliation with gree real estate.

If we understand the above concepts, Gree Electric and Haier Group are worthy of comparison. They are all companies that mainly produce white goods, and they are all leading enterprises in the industry. In 20 18, Haier Group's global revenue was 266 1 100 million yuan, of which ecological income reached 15 1 100 million yuan, up 75% year-on-year; Gree Electric's revenue is about 200 billion, with a difference of about 66 billion. Haier's main products: refrigerators, air conditioners, washing machines, water heaters, etc. Ranked among the top three in domestic sales; On the other hand, Gree's products have little influence except air conditioning, and air conditioning is particularly affected by the real estate boom, so Gree's ability to resist risks is far less than Haier's. Haier's overseas revenue accounts for 40% in the right, and Gree is about 17%. Haier is a successful multinational enterprise, and 100% of Haier's overseas income comes from its own brand. Moreover, part of Gree's income is OEM for others, or it is in short supply.

20 18 With the cooperation of brand strategy and globalization strategy, Haier's brand effect has been continuously enlarged. According to the ranking of the top 500 world brands in 20 18 (the 5th 15) released by new york World Brand Lab on February 8, 2008, Haier ranked 4 1 among the top 500 global brands. Haier ranks first among the top brands of China 100 in 20 18 (24th), with a brand value of 209.208 billion yuan, ranking first in the household appliance industry in China. Many of Haier's products have entered high-end markets such as Germany and the United States. Judging from the two icons, Haier's brand penetration and influence are far ahead of Midea and Gree. (Icon from: Beiyue Zhuojiubaijia)

China's home appliance shipments have accounted for 70% of the world, and it is definitely a big producer of home appliances. For home appliance enterprises in China, globalization is the biggest opportunity and challenge. The key depends on whether the home appliance enterprises in China have the ability to expand in globalization. How to achieve successful global brand operation and detonation? The pattern and vision of entrepreneurs determine the development realm of enterprises; The learning ability of entrepreneurs is related to the development and survival of enterprises. At this point, Haier has been at the forefront of China's home appliance industry!

Mr. Zhang Ruimin is now the chairman and CEO of Haier Group, and is the "godfather" of business circles in China, especially the home appliance industry. He is also an alternate member of the Central Committee from the 15th to 17th National Congress. It is extremely rare for him to be the head of a non-central enterprise, which fully proves the state's affirmation of his work and achievements. Mr. Zhang Ruimin is also one of the 100 people commended for the 40th anniversary of the reform and opening up, which shows his contribution and influence.

Starting from paying close attention to product quality, Zhang Ruimin has made great contributions to developing a collective enterprise on the verge of bankruptcy into today's Haier Group. Known as a "thinker" in quality management and enterprise management by the business community, it is absolutely not as good as the thinking of network celebrities. He is really a thinker in the hometown of Confucius and Mencius. As far as I know, the phenomenon of "Internet celebrities" rises and falls rapidly. It can not be used as the basis of enterprise management and product marketing, but only as a means or supplement.

Haier Group's main business has changed from traditional "household appliances" to "Internet of Things Ecology". This year is the 35th year of Haier's venture. After contributing to the world-class brand, Haier's new goal is to contribute to the world-class "one person, one thing" Internet of Things model. The substantial growth of Haier's "ecological income" reflects the effectiveness of the "one person, one number" model in the process of continuous practice and evolution, and is an important symbol to measure the ecological circle effect and ecological brand value in the Internet of Things era.

At the 20 19 Innovation Annual Meeting of Haier Group held recently, Zhang Ruimin proposed that Haier should "strive to become a world-class Internet of Things model through the integration of people". Midea Group's "50 Rebirth" annual management meeting expressed the strong desire that "only change can regenerate". It seems that thinkers in China's home appliance industry have started to act.

As two typical examples of white goods industry, Haier has more varieties, greater influence and higher status in the fields of white goods such as TV, refrigerator, air conditioner and washing machine. Gree is dominated by air conditioning, and its position in the field of air conditioning is higher than Haier's.

Then, judging from the situation in recent years, why does Haier seem to have no greater voice and higher status than Gree? Mainly because Zhang Ruimin is a low-key person, he doesn't like publicity, and he won't say something eye-catching in a high-profile way. On the contrary, Dong Mingzhu has always been high-profile, which naturally attracts more attention.

It must be admitted that in the list of commendation for the 40th anniversary of reform and opening up, Zhang Ruimin is impressively listed, but Dong Mingzhu is not. From this perspective, we can also see who has a higher real status, who can better represent the white goods industry in China, and who can play a role and influence in national enterprises.

Therefore, whether an entrepreneur has a position is not the right to speak, but the influence, which lies in the position and influence of the people above.

Gree air conditioner is available for your reference after sale.

Gree cabinets have been in operation for three years, but they are rarely used. They are only occasionally used during the day in summer and weekends. They are broken and do not cool, indicating communication failure.

I called the after-sales service, and someone came. I didn't test it, so I changed the motherboard of the external machine. At that time, the boot did not show a fault, and the master left. The original motherboard has a series of parameters of air conditioning, how to wire it, and the new motherboard has nothing. I don't know if there is something fishy.

After a while, I found it was still not cold, so I called the master. Answer: if it is not cooling, it may be that the connecting wire between the internal and external machines is broken. Did you buy it yourself or use ours? We need to charge for it.

Of course I don't agree: should we test it first and see what the reason is? Is this the right line? Besides, it's under warranty and it hasn't been repaired yet. How do you charge?

Maintenance master: You need to call customer service again. I can go online, but my list is still changed to the motherboard. You have to sign it for me. I can't pay for it. This can't be told to customer service.

The next day, the master brought a thread. The original wire was three strands with grounding wire, and the new wire was only two strands without grounding wire, so it was patched.

To tell the truth, I am very dissatisfied with the quality and after-sales of Gree. Household air conditioners, four brands, Haier, Hisense, Gree and Galanz. Gree was bought in Gree store (flagship store), and the other three were bought in JD.COM. The other three brands have never been broken, but Gree, which claims to be the best quality, is broken, and the after-sales service is even more disappointing!

Qingdao Haier was established in 1984 and Gree Electric was established in 199 1. Haier was born seven years before Gree. In an industry, enterprises that enter the market first often have greater advantages. In addition, Zhang Ruimin, a famous entrepreneur in China, was in charge of Qingdao Haier. In 1990s, Haier became a well-known brand of white goods.

Gree Electric's reputation is much softer than Haier's. When Haier became famous all over the country in the 1990s, many people had never heard of Gree. Gree became famous at the beginning of this century. After the advertisement bombing of "Gree Mastering Core Technology", Gree's fame gradually increased. In addition, since the beginning of this century, Zhang Ruimin, the head of Haier, has lost the spirit of reform, while Dong Mingzhu, the head of Gree, has made frequent appearances in public and spared no effort to promote his products. So the gap between the two is getting closer and closer.

20 18 is an important year in the development history of Gree Electric. This year, Gree Electric's operating income exceeded 200 billion yuan for the first time. At the same time, this business scale surpassed Qingdao Haier for the first time. Last year, Qingdao Haier's operating income was 654.38+083.3 billion yuan, which was 654.38+067 billion yuan lower than Gree. 20 17 Qingdao Haier is more than Gree Electric 1 1 100 million.

In recent ten years, Qingdao Haier, once the first white goods in China, has been surpassed by Midea and Gree successively. There are many reasons for this. Personally, I think it has a lot to do with Zhang Ruimin's long-term steering of Qingdao. Indeed, before the 1990s, Zhang Ruimin was an enterprising reformer. That is, after entering this century, the intensity of Zhang Ruimin's reform is much smaller than before. But Gree is different, with Dong Mingzhu as a model worker.

To sum up, between Qingdao Haier and Gree Electric, I prefer the latter. The reason is that I like Dong Mingzhu.

Tell me my personal opinion.

Zhang Ruimin is the founder of Haier. I like financial news. I grew up listening to Haier's story and watching Haier's case. After all, it was the first national brand of that year. As a Shandong native, I have a sense of regional pride.

And Miss Dong should be regarded as a rising star. Compared with Zhang Ruimin, Zhu Jianghong read the story that she entered the market alone after she took the job. I also know the hardships, especially for a woman.

To tell the truth, I was worried about Haier in those years when Haier was in a bottleneck and its growth was weak. Looking at Haier, TV is not very successful, mobile phones slowly disappear, computers soon disappear, and the pharmaceutical industry and insurance are not big. Real estate entered the business later than Hisense, a brother in the same city, and it was just so-so. I am anxious for Haier from the bottom of my heart.

Today, I said to the post, "Should Lao Zhang retire early? The older he gets, the more immortal he becomes. Now he seems to be more like a philosopher, and when he tries to look at the problems encountered by enterprises with philosophical thinking, although Lu Shang is elegant and respectable, he always feels that he has been floating on the surface and is not grounded. What is our impression from the landmark event of smashing the refrigerator? Good quality, good service and strict management were very successful in the initial stage of the brand. But then everyone caught up. What did Haier do? I remember a widely publicized case in which Haier invented a washing machine for washing sweet potatoes. This kind of case made for publicity can not last long for the promotion of the core competitiveness of enterprises. In recent years, Haier has only cooperated deeply in its core competitiveness, and in fact, it has been turning itself into a shell company. In the era when core technology determines product power to drive market changes, Lao Zhang, who only sells concepts, can't keep up. In recent years, Lao Zhang has been working as a maker, disrupting the entire organizational structure of the enterprise. According to Lao Zhang, small and micro enterprises are directly oriented to the market, and middle-level cadres are gone. However, looking at mature international companies, no one can rely on strict organization, no stable structure, no excellent product quality and no creativity without incentives. An enterprise is constantly reborn, and middle-level cadres disappear. Where can I get corporate culture, where can I concentrate on scientific research, and where can I get it? How to ensure product quality? How to guarantee after-sales service? Everyone looks like money. ...

In addition, when it comes to Haier, we have to mention the issue of property rights. I hope the government can be more tolerant of this outstanding entrepreneur. This is just a small collective enterprise. Where did Haier come from without Lao Zhang? Quickly clarify property rights and let Lao Zhang retire with confidence. This endless retirement is not good for enterprises. ..

Let's talk about Miss Dong again. I haven't paid much attention to Gree in these seven or eight years. I noticed that Gree's homepage is so profitable and has such a high market share. I can't help looking at this fiery Nanjing elder sister with new eyes. After reading her case and reading more news about her, I feel that Miss Dong gives the impression that she is resolute, daring to think and do, and never flinches. But this character is a double-edged sword, which can succeed or fail. There are many successful people, but not many can stay awake after success. In recent years, Miss Dong's series of actions have made people feel impetuous. Start with advertising, be the image spokesperson of your own brand, make a mobile phone, and make a billion bets with Lei Jun. Regardless of everyone's opposition, I want to buy shares in Yinlong and engage in new energy vehicles ... What's the result? She won the bet with Lei Jun's online celebrity, but the mobile phone and Yinlong became dog blood ... Being too conceited will make your judgment lose and it is difficult to make the right decision. But some time ago, Ms. Dong, who had too much money in her hand, was ready to enter the chip industry again ... Mobile phones and new energy can only be regarded as the tuition fees of Gree and Ms. Dong, and it won't hurt her tibia, but the chip can kill Gree, and it doesn't have to be smashed out with money, which requires technical accumulation. I hope that Ms. Dong will make a careful decision and stagger like a mountain, which has taught a lot. ....

As the saying goes: shop around and people are more popular than others. I don't think it's appropriate to compare Zhang Ruimin with Dong Mingzhu, because one started from scratch and the other is a city guard. It can be said that Zhang Ruimin developed Haier from that dying collective enterprise into today's Haier Group, and when Dong Mingzhu took over Gree, Gree was at the peak of its development, and the two were not in the same breath. I think the market value, brands and products of Haier and Gree are more reliable.

First of all, judging from the market value of the two companies, the current market value of Haier Electric Appliances is HK$ 58.2 billion, while that of Gree Electric is RMB 235.756 billion, which is different in terms of volume. Obviously, Haier's market value is much lower than that of Gree Electric. Therefore, in terms of market value alone, I am more optimistic about Gree.

Secondly, judging from the word-of-mouth of the two companies, Dong Mingzhu is famous as an "Internet celebrity", and Gree Electric has always been famous for Dong Mingzhu's character. Zhang Ruimin prefers to talk less and do more. His business style may be burying his head in doing things, which is quite different. Therefore, from the perspective of corporate reputation, I am more optimistic about Haier.

In addition, judging from the business expansion of the two companies, Gree's business expansion is not smooth, and the layout of the Internet of Things is "thunder and rain are small", while Haier's Internet of Things platform has made achievements, and Haier U+ smart home is also gradually moving forward. Therefore, as far as business development is concerned, I am more optimistic about Haier.

Finally, from the product structure of the two companies, Haier has more varieties, greater influence and higher status in the field of home appliances; Gree is higher than Haier in the field of air conditioning. So from the product structure alone, I am more optimistic about Haier.

To sum up, for different entrepreneurs and different enterprises, we should fundamentally analyze and compare them, and we should not make arbitrary judgments. Different times have created different great entrepreneurs, and different enterprises have created different great entrepreneurs. If you really want to ask, which is more optimistic about Haier and Gree? Personally, I feel more optimistic about Haier.