Interview perspective of mental hospital

She: "The problem is that we all want to be complicated when we grow up."

Me: "It's normal."

She: "No, it's a paradox. You see, adults educate their children with their own attitudes, but what do they educate their children with? When you grow up, right? So can children accept it? Or can you make it clear when adults express it? What if the expression is wrong? What if I'm wrong? Then children who accept knowledge will be affected for life. However, the question comes back: What is right? "

Me: "There are so many children educators now."

She: "Wait a minute, tell me my own opinion."

Me: "Hmm."

She: "The vast majority of people engaged in children's education don't understand children. Do you need an example? "

Me: "I really need it."

She: "well, for example, I have read some articles for children. For example, when I go out in the morning, I will say in my child's voice: the sky is blue, the sunrise is beautiful, the trees are green, the air is fresh, and so on, right?"

Me: "Well, it reflects the purity of children."

She smiled: "Then I'll tell you what I know. I have asked more than 100 children what I saw when I went out this morning. Do you know what the children are looking at? "

Me: "weren't those just now?"

She: "Absolutely not. Their height is not as high as ours, so they are not interested in seeing so much, so far and so macroscopic. They are closer to the ground than we are, and the ground is the most attractive place for them. They will look at bugs; Will pay attention to the stones kicked when walking; Will pay attention to the reflection of stagnant water; You will see half of the coins buried in the soil; Will seriously study when to step on it and make a unique creaking sound when stepping on the snow; They will observe the pattern of square bricks under their feet. They are too concerned, but few people look up at the sky and the sunrise, saying that the air is fresh. "

Me: "You mean that many children's books are actually from the perspective of adults?"

She: "Well, when we read this kind of writing, we will feel very fresh, while children will feel bored when they read it. Children are smart, but they are not very expressive. They can only respond directly as: not interested. "

Me: "Since when do you pay attention to children's attitudes?"

She: "Four years ago, probably. That is to go shopping with my brother and sister-in-law. My little nephew has been making trouble, but he just doesn't want to be in the mall. At first I thought he wanted to do something else, but later I found out that he wasn't. Just as I squatted down to tie his shoelaces, I looked around and found that in the eyes of children, shopping malls were not fun at all. There are all kinds of legs, shoes and pants everywhere, which is very boring. "

Me: "So"

She: "That's why I understand that I have forgotten those views when I was a child."

Me: "So you chose this lifestyle now."

She nodded her head.

Her home decoration is like a children's room, with colorful decorations everywhere. All the furniture is round and there are fluorescent spots on the ceiling. If the lights are turned off, the Milky Way will appear. She proved it to me. Even the cup that gives me water is printed with cartoon characters. The most interesting thing is her computer desk. In a small tent, the outside of the tent is decorated in a grassy slope with wild animals on it.

She: "In fact, many things we take for granted have their own problems, but no one has found them."

Me: "I have to give an example."

She smiled: "Have you ever noticed the beef jerky or sausage wrapped in preservatives in the supermarket? There is also the kind of spicy duck neck sold outside. "

Me: "Yes, what's wrong with that?"

She: "once I was shopping in the supermarket, a little boy stood in front of the shelf and looked at the beef jerky in horror." I think his expression is funny. Go up and ask him if he is greedy. The child said that the cow was brave. I was curious and asked him how he knew the cow was brave. He pointed to the big package of beef jerky on the shelf and said, look, that cow is telling everyone with its own meat. It's delicious. I couldn't help laughing at that time, and it was really like that. Then I noticed a lot of meat packaging and found that it was all like this. One or several ducks hold the duck neck and give a thumbs up. A pig was full of praise for holding a large steak, and a cow introduced how attractive beef was. A few fish are happily holding canned fish on the plate, too many. "

I scratched my head: "But are they all like this? Don't let wolves promote sausages? "

She looked at me Gherardini: "Actually, I'm just giving an example. These packages are like this. When we get used to it, we get used to it, but children don't see it that way. They will find problems, feel abnormal, question them and have new ideas. However, we won't, just because we are used to it. "

Me: "You are an illustrator by profession. You can treat it that way, but everyone else has to make a living and live. It can't be that state. "

She: "No, you are wrong. When I work, I work. From attitude to way, I am working, because I am making a living. That's why jobs are only for adults. But once I leave my job, I will be a child, because I like this fresh world, not the accustomed world. Everyone has the right to choose their own preferences, rather than having the same attitude as others. "

Me: "That makes sense, I agree."

She: "So, it's not surprising that I live like this. As for whether I should say this to you, that's my right. If I don't want to say it, then I won't say it. What others think of me is not my problem, but theirs. Just like that friend, he thought I was weird and abnormal, so he asked you to contact me, right? I don't think she is normal, not me. "

Me: "I'm glad you can tell me this."

She: "No, you should be glad that you are the kind of person who likes the new world. If you are not such a person, I won't tell you. You don't understand what I'm telling you, or you'll twist my mind, right? Like this, I'm not interested in telling my friends. She is fine, she cares about me very much, but she doesn't understand my attitude, so I won't tell her this. "

Me: "Well, should I tell her these things about you?"

She: "It's up to you, you make the decision."

Me: "Well, I'll decide."

She: "Good."

Me: "Then will you be very tired?"

She: "Are you tired? I don't know. This is something I like, so I don't feel tired. When people are doing what they like, they will be very involved and crazy, and they will find their own problems and find their own ways. "

Me: "I admit this."

She: "Survival and interest are always the best motivation. Of course, now everyone is pursuing material life, and it is understandable to take this as the driving force. Many people do many different things in many different ways. For example, if you want to have a big house, a good car and a beautiful wife, then you work hard to make money. Another person wants to live a savage life, does not want to be linked to money, and hopes to live like a wolf; Others want to travel around the world in various ways and go out to play after earning some money. Then you stand from your point of view and say,' You are all idiots and sick. Don't worry about money! And they will laugh at you for being crazy about money, or ignore you at all. Actually, what is this? It's a question of values, and to put it bluntly, it's a question of angle. Besides, what do you think the emperor pursues immortality for? In fact, because he is already an emperor, what else can he pursue? The world is already your own. In the past, the field of alien life has not been expanded, the conquest was unexpected, and the materialistic cognition of nature was not as good as it is now. And I want to stand at a higher angle, so there is only "

Me: "Only the immortal asks, and the alchemist takes medicine."

She: "That's it. By the way, have you noticed? Children fear nature more than adults. "

Me: "Your mind is really jumping. Is that a child's lack of material cognition? "

She: "I didn't jump, but I will come back." What I just said is not a cognitive problem, but that children can sometimes see through the essence at a glance. "

Me: "Hey, this is a bit outrageous. The child's experience and experience are insufficient. "

She: "It is precisely because of these shortcomings that children have stronger instincts. Many children will be close to those who like children and alienated from those who don't, but there is no need to communicate and explore before. Why? Although there has been no communication, children can always capture some clues, directly feedback to themselves, form instinct, and remain unconscious in the brain. "

Me: "Well, there seems to be such a situation."

She: "In addition, when we look at things, we often use objective cognition to understand and say: That's it! In fact, many objective cognition is just a hypothesis, and many things have not been explained clearly. "

Me: "Give me an example."

She smiled: "Let's talk about trees. Children think that trees are thoughtful and just stand there without talking. We would say that's impossible. If trees can talk, how come I've never heard of them? "

Me: "I know what you mean. Do we have to talk in communication? Even if the tree can talk, it should hear and understand. Right? "

She smiled: "Yes, that's it. And if adults really come to study, many people will definitely say: Are you sick? Are you full? Is it useful to know that trees can talk? Can you make money? "

Me: "Well, measure everything with one value."

She: "That's right! But sometimes I think, maybe that tree is deeply rooted and really knows where the treasure or valuable things are buried. Is it a successful example that everyone went crazy to study what the tree said? Because it has the most direct economic effect. "

Me: "Well, really! I suddenly want to develop in this area. "

She is still laughing: "You have a good economic vision, haha. Well, come back again. "

Me: "No, I think the last topic is very important!" " "

She laughed her head off: "Stop it and come back. You see, we need so many possibilities to understand whether trees can communicate in the end, but children can't. They simply think that trees can talk and think! "

Me: "Well, adults will need evidence or something."

She: "Yes, the evidence first. Evidence is a very interesting thing. For example,/kloc-0.000 years ago, you said that the earth revolved around the sun, and the solar system was a very small galaxy in the Milky Way. Others said: well, if you prove it to me, I will believe it. What would you do? "

She: "now you let others prove it to you, and others will be too lazy to pay attention to you." But what's interesting is that the person who is too lazy to talk to you has really seen the position of the solar system in the Milky Way? Can it really explain that the earth moves around the sun? I don't know, but he probably learned it at school. Although he fell asleep in that class, everyone thought so, and he naturally thought so. "

Me: "But with mathematical formulas and some calculations."

She: "Does that require a lot of basic knowledge?" Most people can't do it, just talk in general. "

Me: "Well, that makes sense. I remember reading a novel about how a person went back to the past and showed great strength. In fact, that's impossible. Even if you really go back, you can't do anything, just an ordinary person or an ordinary madman. "

She: "Well! That's what happened. In fact, as a group, from a modern point of view, many things have become recognized reality, and we don't need to explore or ignore them, which can't attract our attention. But children don't know this, they will be curious and will get to the bottom of it. You tell your child about photosynthesis, and the child will let you explain it in more detail, and then you will find that you don't know the most fundamental reason or how it first appeared. And many professional scientists don't know the cause, so they can only tell you in general terms: what evolved needs archaeological evidence, understand? The topic has turned back. "

Me: "I think so."

She: "That's it, so I think the existence of religion is still necessary, which simplifies a lot of things. Why are there humans? God created it. How is it made? What do you care? God is omnipotent and wants to make things happen. "

I smiled: "Interesting."

She: "In fact, it can be said that religion can always explain the strangest, strangest and most puzzling things. If you study religion, you will find that everything now can be explained by religion. God is omnipotent, and the most absurd things can be said. If you match the number in the future, it will be said that it is God's foresight; It doesn't matter if it's wrong, which means it hasn't developed to that extent. From generation to generation, death without evidence is always God's greatest. "

Me: "So that's it!"

She: "Yes, I think some religions are good, at least let people do good. Cults are very bad. There are many fools anyway. Leaders are all one idea: believe it all, believe it all! Believe it. Let's go to heaven together. What do you need money for before you become an immortal? Give it to me, I am willing to be at the bottom. "

Me: "I don't think you are disgusting, very interesting and active."

She: "It's still a question of angle. It's hard to say what you think if you don't talk about this afternoon. We talked, and you understood my point of view, so you accepted my behavior. It's that simple. "

Me: "I suddenly thought of a terrible thing: if you are really crazy and I am driven crazy by you, what should I do?"

We all froze for a while, and then laughed at the same time.

When I left that day, I felt full, happy and happy. I really don't understand how anyone can think that she is mentally ill. Or is the person who thinks she is abnormal actually abnormal?

It's interesting to think about this kind of thing. Well, yes, the angle problem.