Is it worth renovating old residential areas?

Beijing’s old communities have been suspended. Judging from actual experience, the transformation results are often unsatisfactory.

The renovation of old residential areas in the north mainly focuses on structural reinforcement and energy-saving renovation. Others also include indoor water supply and drainage pipes, electrical, heating pipes, waterproof and lightning protection; outdoor water supply and drainage, strong and weak electricity, and heating pipes. and environmental remediation.

Due to the improvement of current engineering standards, the original structure generally needs to be reinforced. Reinforcement mainly faces the impact of illegal construction on the first floor, which often fails to meet the design reinforcement requirements.

Due to the impact of house rental or house decoration, indoor projects are difficult to enter many houses, many old pipes cannot be replaced, and a lot of labor costs are consumed.

The design standards of outdoor pipes in old communities are generally low. Due to their age, sewage is often blocked and rainwater drainage is not smooth. However, when doing outdoor projects, due to the need to break the road surface, it is generally difficult to park in old communities, resulting in This resulted in direct conflicts between residents and construction units. Due to the different demands of each household, the project cost increased a lot.

Due to the large increase in costs, in order to not exceed the budget, the quality of some materials has been reduced and the expected results have not been achieved. Moreover, because residents pay too much attention to their personal interests, some home decoration issues unrelated to the renovation have also been included. There are some problems that are difficult to adjust. For example, if the street light is turned on, it affects sleeping, and if it is turned off, it affects walking. No one comments on it if it remains unchanged.

As a result, the renovation cost of old communities is high, the social evaluation is average, and the renovation effects are difficult to meet the new standards. It is generally recommended to carefully consider the renovation of old communities.

To a large extent, there are big problems in the renovation of old communities. In many places, it is just for the sake of good appearance. This is what people often call "face" and doing "face" work. What is the most important content in the renovation of old communities? It should be to solve the hidden safety hazards in old buildings. Old buildings that are 30 or 40 years old are all prefabricated board structures and have very poor safety. This should be solved first! It is necessary to strengthen the main body of the building! But have all localities done this? Another problem is the aging of the pipe network, aging wires and easy fires. The sewers are aging and sewage cannot escape. These all need to be solved urgently! But is it resolved? The bathroom in an old house is too small and cannot be used for bathing. Especially some old houses have no bathroom. How to solve the problem? What's the point of just whitewashing the exterior wall? This is what people often call "face". What's the use of just solving "face"! Therefore, the reconstruction of old cities is definitely not as good as demolition and reconstruction.

Hello everyone, I am the little fat boy from ZZ’s family. I am honored to be invited to answer~

I think the old community is worthy of improvement.

1: The renovation cost of old residential areas is low and the replacement pressure is high.

Although there will be some discomfort and even messy appearance during the renovation of the old community, the result is good. After the renovation, the entire community will look brand new. Since the value of the old community is not very high, the cost of replacement will undoubtedly be too high for the members of the old community. The value of their own houses is low and the price of replacement is high. Obviously many people cannot afford it. On the contrary, the renovation of old communities has greatly reduced their pressure. In this case, most people can choose not to replace it and continue the transition in the old community. There is relatively no pressure to replace the house, and the standard of living will be much improved.

Two: The renovation of old communities is more conducive to our living.

A good living environment and security are indispensable to our lives. The renovation of old communities is changing this. The old community had no one to manage it, and the entire living environment and security measures were very poor. After the renovation, the quality and security of our living environment will be greatly improved, which will allow more people to live with greater peace of mind.

The above is only my personal opinion, everyone is welcome to comment.

The renovation of old houses should be carried out in accordance with the city’s (three olds) - the principle of demolishing and rebuilding, from Fundamentally eradicate the old residential areas, and the dirty and messy urban environment will be given a new look! Renovation can only add luster to urban construction and bring benefits to the people! Only by demolition and renovation can we live a good life! It should not be superficial. Article ~ It’s really not worth it to paint the outside of the walls to have a shiny surface ~ People have lived in old houses for decades. The internal structure is a kitchen and no toilet. Several generations have lived in a house of less than 20 square meters, and they still have to paint the surface. Not only is it not worth it to have bare walls, it is a disgrace to the people who have spent their whole lives building the country. Until now, we have not demolished the old and built new ones, so that the people can live in new houses, good houses, and live a beautiful, happy and enjoyable life! Old houses are not worth painting. ~We owe the people new houses to live in, so we should start by demolishing the old and building new ones, so as to realize it as soon as possible~The beautiful scenery of the city will take on a new look!

The transformation of urban shantytowns is the government's improvement of public services. It is an important measure to improve the housing conditions of people in need and improve social security. Some people have asked whether it is worthwhile for the government to invest in the renovation of old communities. I think it is worthwhile to do anything that is beneficial to the people. How to do a good job in the renovation of old communities, I think there are the following aspects.

1. Conduct thorough investigations to achieve refined management of old buildings and courtyards

Through visits and surveys, all residential areas that meet the renovation requirements are registered and registered, and "one office, one file" is established. , the refined management model of "one hospital, one stall" and "one floor, one stall" provides reliable basic data for promoting the comprehensive renovation and transformation of shantytowns. Formulate the "Implementation Opinions on Comprehensive Renovation and Transformation of Old Residential Areas" and "Implementation Opinions on Full Coverage of Property Services in Old Residential Areas", adhere to the combination of comprehensive improvement and improvement of urban functions, further improve the infrastructure of buildings and courtyards, and promote full property coverage.

2. Increase publicity and create a good atmosphere

Extensively publicize the comprehensive renovation and renovation policy of old buildings and shantytowns through the news media, and produce promotional slogans on community bulletin boards to guide the general public The masses actively support the comprehensive renovation work order and create a good atmosphere for the comprehensive renovation of old buildings and shantytowns.

3. Improve the mechanism to ensure that the work is implemented in place

Establish a leading group for the renovation of old government buildings and shantytowns, and deploy staff with high political quality and strong professional skills to guide the project renovation on site work, and establish a weekly meeting reporting system to regularly report work progress and strictly follow task time nodes to ensure the smooth completion of comprehensive rectification work. At the same time, relevant functional departments will demolish and manage illegal buildings, random piles, and storefronts along the street in the building courtyard.

4. Highlight the characteristics and create a high-quality demonstration community

On the basis of maintaining the existing architectural pattern, the comprehensive renovation and reconstruction of shantytowns adopts "demolition, repair, addition, modification and brightening" Using other techniques, combined with the contextual resources of each building, the building, street facades and partial open spaces were renovated as a whole. Further optimize the design plan and integrate funds to build a high-quality community. Through rectification and transformation, the living conditions and living environment of the people will be effectively improved, and the immediate problems that the people urgently need to be solved will be effectively solved. It also lays a good foundation for jointly creating a beautiful environment and happy life and improving the quality and image of the city.

My answer with certainty: Not worth it, not worth it at all! ! !

However, 10 years of old city renovation, urbanization, urban village demolition, etc. have already spent all the money. Rather than saying that the renovation of old communities is a new goal, it is better to tell the truth that there is no money. , the only way to respond to the dirty and messy living environment of residents in old residential areas over the years is through the renovation of old communities.

Years of real estate development, demolition, development zones, industrial parks and other similar projects have taken up a lot of funds. From liquid and sustainable cash flow, it has gradually turned into a large forest of reinforced concrete. Thereby converting liquid and operable funds into fixed assets.

Fixed assets do not generate profits once they are formed, and will gradually evolve into real estate and enter the depreciation period. Although it is still being speculated, according to the current economic development situation, the internal circular economy has begun , we can think that it is a bit difficult to make money from foreigners, so internal circulation is carried out to let the domestic atmosphere reflect another scene. It is undeniable that this is a way under the current economic conditions, so the transformation of old communities is actually It’s a way to increase the lifespan of continued use.

Eventually one day the problems of old communities will definitely be faced by us. Even the cost of renovating an old community may be higher than building an equivalent building! ! ! Wait and see

Old neighborhoods are not worth renovating. It should be rebuilt. The highest floor of the old community is six floors. It can be built with 18 to 32 floors. Green spaces, parking lots, and fitness venues can be re-planned. The district government plans by area and designates developers for construction. While renovating old communities, financial investment is reduced and economic growth is stimulated.

It’s not worth it. Renovating the community is just a superficial show of spending a lot of money, and it really doesn’t make much sense. It would be better to ask the residents to give some money to tear down the buildings and rebuild them again, thus solving the fundamental problem.

Thank you Master Wukong for the invitation!

Generally speaking, some old communities with houses over 35 years old are not suitable for renovation.

Why do you say this?

Because houses over 35 years old are all built with prefabricated panels, and for various reasons, the layout of the house is very unreasonable.

The living room, bedroom, bathroom, and kitchen of the house are all very small, and some even have a corridor, which takes up the area of ??the house.

Moreover, the upper and lower water pipes are all made of cast iron. After so many years of scale, rust and corrosion, they are already stained with rust.

Some have leaks, and in some older houses, the window frames are made of iron, and many of them have been deformed, and the putty on them has long fallen off.

Moreover, some are not closed tightly at all, and air leaks from all directions. In winter, the cold wind penetrates into the house through the window seals.

In most of the corridors, the walls are peeling off, the walls are black, and some steps are uneven.

Some layouts are unreasonable and the lighting is very poor. In short, the old houses, on the whole, look dilapidated.

For a house like this, there is no need to do surface work, which treats the symptoms rather than the root cause.

Because they are made of prefabricated panels, they are not earthquake-resistant at all. If an earthquake comes, like the earthquake in Wenchuan, all houses with these prefabricated panels will collapse.

The consequences are serious and will cause heavy losses of life and property to the people. The consequences are immeasurable.

If you spend money to paint a house like this, some will replace the windows, some will cover the insulation, paint the corridors, and fix leaks.

The exterior walls have been repainted, and some bathrooms have been remodeled. The overall look is good, but the actual problems have not been solved.

Because it is made of prefabricated panels, it goes without saying that if there is an earthquake, it goes without saying. Moreover, the age of a house with prefabricated panels is 35 years, which has expired.

Spending money on renovating a house like this is just throwing money away, and the gain outweighs the loss.

After the Wenchuan earthquake, the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development required that all prefabricated houses across the country be gradually demolished.

In some places, the renovation of old residential areas has not been recognized by the people, but has caused widespread complaints.

In some places, like Urumqi, in recent years, some old residential buildings of suitable age have been comprehensively renovated.

The windows were replaced, the exterior walls were covered, repainted, the bathrooms were renovated, and the corridor wires and network cables were all renovated.

Some communities have also installed elevators, because these old communities were originally welfare housing for units and former employee housing.

Nowadays, some of these retired old workers are in their 70s and 80s, and for various reasons, they still live in these communities.

As I get older, I can no longer move my feet. I walk with a slight tremor, and some of them use crutches.

It is really inconvenient to go up and down the stairs, so some communities have requested the installation of elevators according to the requirements of the community notice.

The application for installing an elevator must be signed by everyone in the unit, except maybe the first floor.

The cost of installing an elevator is 300,000 yuan, the government subsidy is 150,000 yuan, and the residents share 150,000 yuan.

Unhappiness has also occurred in some communities. Some units on the first and second floors did not agree to the installation because it affected the lighting of their homes.

Moreover, the first and second floors have said, why should we share the cost?

We don’t use an elevator, so there are constant disputes.

Some residents are worried about the load capacity of old houses. They are afraid that after installing an elevator, the load capacity of the house will exceed the standard and there is a hidden danger of collapse.

Due to many various reasons, conflicts and disputes occur in some communities from time to time.

If you have long-term plans and for safety reasons, old communities, especially houses built with prefabricated panels.

It is better to dismantle it. Don’t ignore the safety hazards for the sake of some cosmetic projects.

2020, 8, 15

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