Why didn't anyone drive an American full-size SUV to cross-country in China?

There are so many full-size off-road vehicles in the United States, why doesn't anyone use them to enter Tibet?

Many people find it strange that American SUV culture is so popular that only the United States has full-size SUVs in the world. The wheel power theory of off-road capability is absolutely unnecessary, or even worse. But why are few people in Kazakhstan using these cars to climb the peak and cross the hero slope and the death ridge?

SUV culture in the United States is different from that in China.

China's SUV culture originated from Mitsubishi Pajero. In the 1980s, only two types of off-road vehicles were seen on the road, one was 2 12. However, people think that only Pajero is the real off-road vehicle, and then Toyota bullying began in the 1990s, and China people began to flock to Toyota bullying again.

American SUV comes from pickup culture. The reason why there is a full-size SUV is because the earliest SUV came from a van pickup, that is, a cover was added to the back bucket of the pickup, which changed from pulling goods to pulling people. Therefore, the full-size SUV in the United States undertakes the work of pulling goods and MPV even if its performance is strong. It has nothing to do with cross-country

The geographical environment of the United States and China is different.

In addition, the United States is a plain country, the mountainous areas are concentrated in the western region, and the central and eastern regions are plains, so the off-road function of off-road vehicles is rarely used in daily life. Even on vacation, off-road vehicles will not run to the plateau. China is not. Although China also has 9.6 million square kilometers of land, in fact, mountains account for almost half of the country, and you have to climb mountains to go anywhere. The requirements for SUVs have become different.

Full-size SUV is not suitable for off-road

American full-size SUV is always a 6.2L V8 engine with strong horsepower. The four-wheel drive capability is not low. But be aware that the wheelbase of a full-size SUV is too long, which makes it easier to mop the floor at the bottom of the chassis. It can be seen that no matter how long the body of Toyota Prado is, the wheelbase is only 2.79 meters, which is not as long as that of Q5. This is data sacrificed for off-road performance.

In addition, due to the weight of the car, the fuel consumption control of American full-size SUV also depends on the advanced technology of the engine. However, the more advanced the engine, the worse its adaptability to oil products. People who play cross-country must know that Pajero Jinchang and Toyota Prado have poor engine power values. The power output of 4.0L engine is not as good as that of 2.0T engine. But it is this kind of engine that can adapt to the use environment of high altitude and low oil.

Full-size SUVs in the United States represent American automobile culture, and most of them are not specially built for off-road. Typical models are Cadillac Escalade, Lincoln Navigator, Chevrolet Saboban and Ford Conqueror. American full-size SUVs are basically built with the chassis of pickup trucks, with large displacement, wide body and long wheelbase, which looks great. But their approach angle and departure angles are not very high.

Off-road vehicles not only have high requirements for the power and mechanical performance of vehicles, but also the ground clearance and wheelbase of vehicles are very important. The longer the wheelbase, the easier it is for the car to hit the chassis when driving on some hump sections. In severe cases, the car will get stuck on the hump road, just like a seesaw. The wheelbase of the Escalade Extended Edition is 3,302 mm, while the wheelbase of the Toyota Land Patrol is only 2,850 mm, which is nearly 50 cm more than you think.

Moreover, Americans' demand for full-size SUVs is mainly large space and dragging ability, followed by passability. They like the kind of car with huge internal space, which can seat seven people at the same time, and the trunk space can also hold some big items. Moreover, they also like to take their family and luggage with them on weekends or during breaks, then drag a flatbed car at the rear of the car and put their motorboats on it, and then drag a mobile RV directly behind the latter to drive to the lake or seaside to play. So many full-size SUVs have a drag mode.

Brother Yan's point of view: The focus of full-size SUV is not off-road ability, but has huge riding space, storage space and dragging ability. Although these full-size SUVs are huge, they are not suitable for off-road because of their long wheelbase. Consumers who buy them are mostly used for commuting.

First of all, we need to know what American full-size off-road vehicles are, Cadillac Escalade, Lincoln Navigator, Chevrolet Saboban, Ford Conqueror and GMC Yukon. Most of them are V8 large displacement. Americans love large displacement, strong size suitable for big cars, abundant power, large space and strong loading capacity. Why is the same car rarely used for outdoor play in China?

These American full-size cars enter China at a high price, and they are usually bought for fashion. When you drive a big car and wait for the traffic lights at the intersection, the turn-back rate is still high. There is a lot of space, which other cars can't experience whether driving or riding. It feels like moving your sofa into the car. But buying these cars in America is too cost-effective. For others, it is a "domestic car" and people's oil price is very cheap, so when you come to the United States, it is common to see a displacement of more than 6.0.

American culture is also different. Most of the leisure time is for outings, family trips and a lot of luggage, so it is very suitable to buy these cars for home use. There are almost no cars in China, but it's magnificent to drive out, which makes people feel "expensive". In addition, there is indeed a gap between American cars and Japanese cars in terms of workmanship and durability, which leads to too few domestic cars and no so-called off-road heel. As an off-road vehicle, reliability is definitely the first. Even if it is broken, easy to repair, low maintenance cost, and abundant and cheap spare parts, you can't drive the Escalade off-road, scratch the bumper or have problems with the bearing. Who will play with the accessories that have been waiting for three months? On the contrary, in the domestic automobile industry, the reputation of leather Japanese cars is well known. It has a large quantity, so regardless of spare parts or reliability, Japanese, Toyota overbearing, land patrol, and Toure will definitely be your first choice as long as you buy an off-road vehicle. Even if American cars are full-size non-load-bearing bodies and can be off-road, the owners will not be willing to give up. Their positioning has changed and they have become urban uses. High-end configuration means that they are highly electronic and have a high failure rate. If they really want to drive an American car cross-country, they will also drive a jeep herder. It is sad and exasperating that those "exquisite" big guys are service bosses and business people.

This question is a bit interesting! I can see that you have a deep understanding of cross-country and cars.

When you mention Tibet, you must know that the road to Tibet is getting better and better, and ordinary family cars can also enter Tibet, so Tibet has little to do with off-road performance.

Secondly, you mentioned the American full-size off-road vehicle. In my opinion, there is a great demand for this kind of vehicle in the United States, but not many people choose it in the domestic consumer market at present. If we only talk about the demand of off-road, most people will consider "Japanese school" for the first time, because reliability is the basic guarantee of off-road. In addition, for China people, the full-size purebred big guy is still very rare, and people who choose it usually prefer its "momentum" and "size" rather than its off-road performance.

The above is my personal opinion.

Generally, when playing cross-country, we find that many Japanese hard-core off-road vehicles are holding Jeep herdsman, and few of them drive American full-size SUVs to cross-country. Why?

As the name implies, full-size SUV is the largest model with the largest size, the largest displacement and the largest space in the SUV market segment. Although this model leaves a very domineering and tall impression, in fact, the full-size SUV has a big disadvantage when it is off-road, that is, it is huge. Generally speaking, the length of full-size SUV is about 5 meters, which has certain limitations in both off-road and sand off-road For example, because the car body is long and the wheelbase is long, it is very easy to "bear the load" on the sand beam and it is easier to get trapped.

Another point is that the current American full-size SUV has gradually weakened the off-road attributes and is more inclined to luxury SUVs. Although most full-size SUVs still have some off-road performance, they are relatively limited. On the contrary, there are more comfortable configurations and more electronic components, which are very prone to failure when off-road, but it is counterproductive.

Finally, I think it is the price. For example, the price of some full-size SUVs in the United States is around1million, so why don't consumers choose FJ Cool Road Ze or Jeep Herdsmen with higher cost performance? They can get better off-road performance with less money. Therefore, the market will classify and like large-size luxury SUVs, so choose American full-size SUVs, while consumers who like hard-core off-road vehicles and are willing to cross-country will choose hard-core off-road vehicles such as FJ Cool Road Ze. As time goes by, we will find that few people drive full-size SUVs to cross-country.

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Why doesn't anyone drive an American full-size suv to cross-country? What are the most cars on the way to Tibet? They are nothing more than Prado, Lu Xun, Mitsubishi Pajero and Jimny. It is not difficult to find that Japanese off-road vehicles accounted for the highest proportion during the crossing.

Why do cross-country players prefer Japanese? The most important thing is high quality, less glitches, manufacturing resistance, and no need to worry about being left on the road. All the attributes and stability of off-road vehicles are insignificant compared with each other. It doesn't matter how many locks you have, how much displacement you have, what six cylinders and eight cylinders you can enlarge with low torque. Imagine that your car broke down in the endless plateau mountains. That's really a kind of despair. I really regret being so idle and getting more and more painful. At this time, even if you have ten locks, it won't help, you can only stare.

So can these so-called American full-size SUVs meet people's requirements for high-quality cars? The reliability of Cadillac Escalade and Chevrolet suburban is really flattering. The reputation of American cars has always been poor, and various minor problems continue. Even hard goods like Ford Raptor are not as good as smooth roads in quality. How many people are willing to take such risks?

Quality is on the one hand. When it comes to sales, these American full-size off-road vehicles have no advantage in terms of ownership. Land Rover, Land Patrol, Toure, Bullying and even herdsman can be seen everywhere in the street, but these American full-size off-road vehicles are rare. Few people buy it, let alone drive it off-road. Except in the United States, these cars can only be regarded as non-mainstream in the world, and their market recognition is also very low.

Moreover, the prices of these cars, such as Escalade, Yukon and Saboban, are all above 6.5438+0 million, and they have no outstanding advantages except personality and large size, especially in terms of brand influence. There is no reason why consumers should not choose such high-priced cars as Land Rover Range Rover, Mercedes-Benz G500 and Land Patrol.

Americans have their own unique way of life, the great plains, vast land and sparsely populated, wide roads and cheap oil prices, so they prefer this kind of large off-road vehicle and pickup truck. These cars have large space and strong loading capacity, especially some farmers often need to transport things. Besides, Americans like picnics and have a big family, so these cars are customized for them and are not practical in China.

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American full-size off-road vehicles have no advantages in brand influence, market share, practicality, price and quality, so domestic consumers don't buy these cars, let alone drive them off-road.

American cars have always been gas guzzlers with large emissions, and the tariffs and emissions taxes on entering the China market are too high. At first, it seems that only about 50,000-70,000 dollars are needed abroad, so it is conceivable to introduce them into China.

Cattle car critics know that they are short-sighted, so they only express their opinions. So far, Chevrolet Suburban has rarely entered the China market.

Chevrolet Suburban has a history of more than 80 years, and the latest model has reached 65,438 +02 generations, which is known as the originator of American full-size SUV models. The full-size SUV that Americans like is more than 5 meters long, 2 meters wide and about 1.9 meters high. The car is 5.7 meters long and equipped with a 5.3L V8 engine, which is more in line with the appetite of American full-size SUV enthusiasts than Lincoln Navigator and Cadillac Escalade. The price is only 50,000-70,000 US dollars (equivalent to about 330,000-450,000 RMB, which will be twice as high after being introduced to China).

Why not introduce China?

The premium of Chevrolet luxury car is relatively low. After the introduction of Bumblebee into China, there is no need to introduce pure American cars. In the China market, Chevrolet's positioning is lower than Buick, which is also a GM group, and the price of the same class model is not as high as Buick's, so Chevrolet can only be responsible for occupying the relatively low-end market.

If Chevrolet Suburban is introduced to China, its price should be around 600,000 (not too much? ), the price includes Grand Cherokee and JEEP herdsman rubicon, and the performance of the two cars is excellent in the same class.

There are Land Rover Aurora, Volvo XC60 and Mercedes-Benz GLK, which are deeply rooted in people's hearts (perhaps many people don't care whether they are full size or not). Chevrolet Suburban has no advantage in price, not to mention Chevrolet's brand influence can't support its price after coming to China.

To tell the truth, in China, rich people don't like Chevrolet Suburban. Suburban can even be seen in American presidential trips and American movies, but people who really like it can't afford it, so it can only be "shouldered" in the United States.

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In fact, off-road depends not only on the performance of the vehicle, but also on the passing capacity of the vehicle. Approach angle departure angle is as important as vehicle performance. Off-road is a test of the comprehensive performance of vehicles, and it is not a single excellent performance that can be used for off-road.

For a full-size SUV, the first disadvantage is that the size is too large and the wheelbase is too long, which leads to a small passing angle and a long wheelbase, and it is easy to support the bottom between two axles. This situation is too common on unpaved roads. It doesn't mean that you can cross-country with good vehicle performance. In fact, I think the approach angle, departure angle, passing angle and minimum ground clearance of vehicles are as important as vehicle performance, which are all indispensable.

Basically, there are no professional drivers driving this full-size SUV to cross-country. Once this vehicle is stuck, other vehicles can't be rescued at all, or it is difficult to rescue. Of course, the full-size pickup truck I mentioned also includes pickup trucks, and there are very few off-road pickup trucks. No one drives this car to challenge the extreme cross-country, mainly because of its passability, not because its performance is not good enough, but because its size is too large.

The above contents are my personal views on this issue, hoping to help you. Welcome friends with different opinions to leave comments below and tell me your views on this issue!

Fortunately, because I am in the United States, I have rented these two cars, and I also rented a yukon in Alaska at the end of June 65438+ 10. However, these two cars are not suitable for extreme off-road, because the wheelbase of these two cars is too long and the passability is not ideal. On the way from Anchorage to fairbanks, in order to see the scenery, I deliberately bypassed Glennalen and took the Ak0 1 highway. There are more mountain roads here, and yukon is exposed on the road because of the huge wheelbase of the car. Although I have been driving for 4 hours, I have a tendency to flick my tail at every turn, so I can only keep slowing down, especially at some tuyere sections, which is like a tortoise crawling. The birth of this kind of car is entirely due to the size and size of Americans and the convenience of parking. It's really not suitable for cross-country

The actual road conditions in China are completely different from those in the United States. Almost all the familiar American full-size SUVs tend to be comfortable on the road, such as Escalade, GMCyukon and Navigator. At present, they are all full-size luxury SUVs with exaggerated size on the market. Apart from the large size of the vehicle, low ground clearance and long suspension stroke, it is not designed for off-road at all. In the United States, this full-size SUV is usually used as a cruise vehicle in road trip. Some families even put a trailer behind the car to meet the needs of long-distance travel. However, even station wagons are not acceptable to consumers in China. This kind of large-size car is basically bought as a door to earn face. The concept of domestic consumers is completely different from that of foreign products.

Even if American consumers really want to go off-road, they will play with cheap and expensive pickups such as Raptor and Chevrolet, or choose Jeep. The introduction of Raptor into China is purely imported, and foreign agricultural factories will become real luxury cars after pulling trucks to China.

Just look at the configuration, American full-size SUVs can really meet the needs of light off-road, but if you want to talk about off-road four-wheel drive, they are only entry-level. Four-wheel drive is still a timely four-wheel drive for millions of cars. Hard-core off-road vehicles such as multi-disc clutch central differential, low torque amplification and differential lock are basically not equipped. Manufacturers are not prepared to use this tank-sized car as an off-road vehicle at all, but are more safe family cars, paying attention to practicality and comfort. Just ask you, it's more than 3 meters. If you want to play cross-country, buy hard-core cross-country honestly. American trolleys are used by business owners to receive customers in China. People think they are too much.

The above is my personal opinion. Don't spray if you don't like it. I hope it helps you.