How do you view the current problem of a large number of civil engineering practitioners changing careers?

I have been working in engineering management since 2011, and it has been nearly ten years now. From the beginning as an intern, to a construction worker, site leader, project manager, and finally to the vice president of a small labor service company, last year I resigned from the first to the end of August, and then switched to self-media. There are two main reasons why I left the construction industry:

1. I have two brothers at home. I have a 7-year-old son. My mother helped me raise him before. Son, my wife and I go to work. My sister-in-law gave birth in April last year. My mother went to take care of the baby for them, but there was no one to take care of my child. My wife was too busy alone. I had no choice but to apply to go back to Wuhan to work.

However, there are no holidays in the construction industry. We work overtime every day, get up early and come home late. In addition to picking up and dropping off our son from school, we also have to send him to tutoring classes every day. My wife and I are as busy as spinning tops every day, and we cannot guarantee the quality of our work. , I often arrived late and returned early, and asked for leave. In the end, I decided that this was not an option, so I resigned and turned to self-media.

2. Not only does construction have long working hours, poor environment, hard life, and exposure to wind and sun, but there is also a reason that no one else knows, that is, the pressure in the construction industry is extremely high now, and Party A requires High, workers are difficult to manage, money is difficult to get, and accounts are difficult to settle. If you are not strong enough to withstand pressure in this industry, you will easily collapse.

3. Most construction workers have conflicts with their wives. They are away from home all year round and live in separate places. They cannot help at all with family matters. As time goes on, the relationship between husband and wife becomes worse and worse. Not being able to take care of his wife, children, and parents is the biggest pain in the heart of a builder.

4. The body cannot bear it. Living conditions are poor, and people often stay up late and are exposed to wind and sun. It is also easy for them to develop many bad habits such as smoking and drinking.

I believe that the main reasons why many people leave the pouring industry are nothing more than these 4 reasons. Of course, there are other reasons, but they are not universal!

I hope the above answers are useful to everyone!

I was working as a supervisor at a construction site. My brothers from the construction unit scolded the supervisor fiercely, scolded the supervisor for being ignorant and incompetent, scolded the supervisor for asking for money, and asked the relevant departments to cancel the supervision system. In short, the supervisor was not working at the construction site. He does human things and does all kinds of bad things.

I don’t want to argue about the merits. I shed tears just talking about it. Supervisors work in strict accordance with the "Supervision Specifications" at the construction site and speak according to the contract, drawings and standards. It is difficult to bring in "private goods".

Today's construction site is like a certification training institution. Construction units and supervisors are always taking time to read, study, prepare for exams, and obtain certificates. The pressure of competition is very high. Without a certificate, the salary is very low, but with a certificate, the salary is doubled. Certificates determine income, and certificates determine face.

The "martial arts secrets" learned by the construction unit personnel are higher and deeper than the "Huashan Sword Discussing" of the supervisors. The construction site simply won't work.

The abuse and slander of the supervisor by the construction unit is similar to the scolding of a shrew on the street. I don’t want to say it anymore. The supervisor’s salary is much lower than that of the construction unit. If something happens on the construction site, the supervisor will go to jail, but the supervisor becomes the construction unit’s boss. A thorn in the flesh.

I have been working as a construction site supervisor for more than ten years. When I meet good project managers, everyone cooperates very happily. There are not many project managers who encounter difficulties, but there are some, but most of them are because of the acceptance criteria. The understandings are different and conflicts arise.

Once, we supervised the inspection and acceptance of the thickness of the riprap protection stones for the breakwater. The designed thickness of the protection stones was 1.8 meters, but the actual measurement was a little more than 1 meter. The breakwater of 4 to 5 kilometers has two internal and external layers. As for the side protective stones, even if the construction unit loses 0.5 meters in the thickness of the protective stones, the material cost will still be reduced by 5 million.

As a result, the project manager and the on-site construction personnel beat up our director. During the scuffle, they both fell to the ground. The owner stood motionless next to him. I rushed over and hugged the project manager’s waist, risking my life. Only by drawing out the fight did a bloody conflict be avoided.

It is really not easy to work on the construction site. I feel sad and tearful. I don’t want to talk about the intrigues with the construction unit. Let’s talk about the daily life of the supervisors. In order to build a clean government, the supervisors are not in the construction unit. When you eat in the canteen, you cook the food yourself, and the food expenses are managed by the director.

Some directors are small-minded and deduct the food expenses, not just a little bit, but more than half. The company gives supervisors more than 7,000 yuan in monthly food expenses, 38 yuan per person per day for food and gas. Not included in food expenses.

In order to deduct food expenses, the director often drives to find ditches and reservoirs to fish. Sometimes he finds a smelly ditch and catches half a bucket of fish in one go. Green vegetables are just smelly fish and rotten shrimps.

The cook was pregnant. She didn’t vomit during the pregnancy, but she cut open fish every day and vomited. The money saved from buying meat dishes was lost by the director. The director also said that the food expenses were not enough and exceeded the standard. How can I explain it? .

One time, the director had something to do at home. The director called me 700 yuan and asked me to take care of the food. I ate for a week for 700 yuan and 35 yuan for a live duck. I simmered duck soup in coconut milk every day. It was delicious. It's so good and cheap, but the food expenses of 7,000 yuan per month are not enough. It's really a fantasy.

The most unbearable thing is the housing on the construction site. The director lives in a house alone, and the other supervisors share a room. When I was at the Hainan construction site, three supervisors shared a 10-square-meter room. House, the director only cares about his own comfort and does not care about the life or death of others.

In order to please the company, the director tried his best to exploit his supervisors. The house we rented was rented out by the previous construction team, and the bed sheets, black quilts and other daily necessities were left behind. The director was unwilling to buy new daily necessities and asked us to use leftover supplies. There were still blood stains on the sheets, which was disgusting.

Three hot-blooded men living in one room with no privacy or dignity at all. I don’t know if this situation is considered illegal abroad. Anyway, it is commonplace in China. Under normal circumstances, But that's it.

The little brother who lives with us is in his early thirties and doesn’t have a girlfriend yet. He can’t hold himself back, so he “tortures himself” under the sheets during his lunch break, making the room full of “tadpoles.” "The smell is so disgusting.

Those who are able to stay at the construction site are probably people from poor family conditions like me. In order to survive and earn more money to support their families, they sacrifice their humanity, life and youth. , sacrificing their families, and some brothers also sacrificed their wives.

Current status of the civil engineering industry

Civil engineering is relatively hard work, with low barriers to entry and low remuneration. Although civil engineering graduates can find jobs, the work is hard and they will not be able to find a home for a long time.

Personal and colleagues’ work situation

I was born in the early 1980s. At that time, my family didn’t have much money. I want to find a job when I go to college. There are many people in the civil engineering industry in our rural areas. They all know that it is easy to find a job. I have never heard of other industries. I feel that other industries are empty, and civil engineering directly provides practical things. Civil engineering was also very popular at that time, and I felt that it was quite respectable for me in the countryside, so I chose civil engineering.

After graduating in 2007, I have been working in the civil engineering field and have not changed careers. It's because I don't have the ability to change careers, I don't understand other things, and I'm a slow learner. There weren't as many job opportunities as there are now, and it's impossible to change careers at this age. I have many colleagues and classmates. They worked for a few years and then changed careers. At that time, about 10 years ago, they were engaged in computers, web pages, programming, etc., and some were engaged in e-commerce. Later, some were good and some were bad, and they did more well. Anyway, they were better than civil engineering. make money. At that time, the majority of people continued to work in civil engineering.

When I was about to graduate, the teacher said that we should find a job first and then choose a career. Let us hurry up and find a job in the civil engineering industry first, and wait until later. In fact, there are many jobs that continue to work. There are also people who quit when they really can’t do it anymore. For example, if the conditions at home are good, the family will ask you to go home and stop floating outside, because most of the civil engineering industry is on construction sites, which are far away from home, which is too hard.

What do you think about the problem of a large number of people changing careers in the civil engineering industry?

With the improvement of living standards, many people are no longer willing to work outside and want to find a stable job in the city. , even if the salary is not high, I don’t want to run around outside. Not only for your family and yourself. Building connections around people. All good. At present, not only students in the civil engineering industry want to change careers, but it is also difficult to find migrant workers on construction sites. Nowadays, migrant workers on construction sites are basically very old. There are basically very few young people. Sometimes I think that this group of older people can no longer work at the construction site. If we recruit people in the future, where can we recruit people? Young people are reluctant to come. This is the treatment issue that needs to be considered. It is said that there must be brave men under heavy rewards. If the salary is high enough, labor will definitely be found.

How much the salary will increase will depend on the future supply and demand!

I am 45 years old and have been engaged in the engineering industry for 23 years. To be honest, I am tired of it. It is not because of my career, but because I am tired. I want to work on my skills. It is difficult to get promoted in your position because the times are developing too fast and it is difficult to keep up. Secondly, in terms of family, you have seniors and subordinates who are under a little pressure, which makes you unable to work with peace of mind. Let’s take a look at the other main reasons.

1. Looking at the employees in this civil engineering industry, most of those with experience or some position are in their 40s. No matter how old they are, they will be waiting for retirement, and if they are younger, they will still have little time to accumulate experience. Therefore, most practitioners are facing a mid-life crisis. There is a term for middle age called "hard middle age". Many people are even still paying for houses and cars, and even worse, they may have been divorced. The pressure will be even greater, and there will be no time to work. In this case, you don't change careers. , the company's human resources department will ask you to change careers.

2. This year’s 2020 COVID-19 epidemic has made the real estate industry even worse. The industry directly affected is the civil engineering industry. Many companies are laying off employees because they have no construction sites to start construction.

3. Most of the civil engineering industry is privately owned, and the work itself is far from decent and stable. Whether they are young people or middle-aged people, as long as there is a better way out, they will try to develop and give it a try, because at least they can see hope and a way out.

4. Nowadays, families are relatively wealthy. No matter which family they are, they no longer worry about food and clothing. Therefore, many young people will choose some industries they like to develop, not necessarily for money.

5. At a class reunion, if you tell people that you are a practitioner in the civil engineering industry, even if you are a project manager, people will still think that you are just a migrant worker working on a construction site. The profession is not respectable enough. The salary is not that high either.

6. This industry is basically open all year round. If you want to take a break, you can only find a good excuse, such as something big happened at home, and if you don’t take a two-day break, your boss will definitely beat you. When he greets you on the phone, you think he cares about you, but in fact his real purpose is to ask you when you will return to work, because there are no idle jobs in this industry, and people usually wear multiple jobs, which is tiring! ! !

In summary, it is not difficult to understand why so many people in the civil engineering industry have changed careers.

I have been engaged in civil engineering for many years. Our country's infrastructure construction has been at a peak development period in recent years. Whether it is housing construction, municipal administration, roads, railways, water conservancy, etc., a large amount of investment has been made, so in these years There are many industries in the industry, but no significant reduction in investment has been seen so far. So the large number of employees changing careers may be a phenomenon in individual regions or industries.

But this industry is really hard, especially on the front line of production. Whether it is a central enterprise, a state-owned enterprise, or a private enterprise, the front-line producers work in other places for many years, and some even work abroad. Although their salary income It is relatively high, but there are two hurdles that cannot be circumvented. One is that you have to work hard all year round to eat your body. Personally, I think this is really not worth it. A serious illness may completely lose your income and your body, and years and decades of hard work will be wasted. , the second is that they are unable to take care of their families all year round and leave the house in a bad state. The elderly are sick and cannot fulfill their filial piety at the bedside. The children cannot be educated and accompanied when they go to school. The husband and wife have been separated for a long time.

Therefore, many engineering practitioners have done enough, and those who have the means and connections have jumped out, or been promoted to management, but there are still many people who understand that this is a job after all, and The income is considerable and the economy is in such a slump. Only this industry is doing well. Surviving first in 2020 is victory.

It is indeed obvious in the past two years that there are more people changing careers. In fact, I don’t think it is surprising. China should be said to have passed the period of major construction. With less construction, the number of personnel will naturally decrease, and the national industry will After adjustment, this change is reasonable.

There are several cases of "being changed careers". This industry is developing rapidly, and now the technical requirements are getting higher and higher, and the work intensity is very high, so some people will be changed careers. "Change careers", industry competition is fierce, profit margins are getting smaller and smaller, and incomes are getting lower and lower, while other industries continue to develop, such as high-tech industries, service industries, etc. It should be said that it is due to social development that changing careers to a more profitable one industry, it’s not impossible. The phenomenon of "the employer has no one available" is actually very obvious. Those who are capable are unwilling to engage in it, while those with average ability have too little output and it is difficult to gain a foothold.

Anyway, many people say that civil engineering is already a sunset industry. It is true to say that it is, and it is not true to say that it is not. In fact, the industry is moving towards rationality, high-end, standards, 360 lines, and the best in every line is the one that suits you. The best

It is inevitable for civil engineering practitioners to change careers. Physical, family and industry conditions really do not allow a person to stay in this industry forever. The days of making money by tinkering with reinforced concrete during the period of brutal real estate production are long gone. Of course, this is not the most important thing. The main thing is that there is really not that much work now. Colleagues in the comment area don’t know how many of them work for China Construction and China Railway, and they don’t say whether they are stationed abroad or cannot return home all year round. Let’s just talk about the situation of most civil engineering practitioners. My own company. The provincial construction companies here are unable to receive jobs, and many municipal construction companies have gone bankrupt.

Is there any good industry in the world where you can make money without working hard! The reason why some people think that the civil engineering industry is not good is because this industry requires lifelong learning, not only civil engineering knowledge, but also interpersonal relationships, financial management, investment, business management, informatization, mechanical and electrical knowledge, etc. Graduating from college is just a blank slate. Paper, I don’t understand anything! As long as you accumulate bit by bit at work and your level improves, your income will also improve! This is similar to a doctor! Have you seen any professor-level senior engineers, excellent project managers, senior engineers, cost engineers...their incomes are low! Go and investigate, what kind of people mainly work in villas in the city, and then you can tell whether this industry is good or not! Therefore, there is no bad industry, only people who don’t work hard! The hardships you endured in the first few years after graduation are to lay the foundation for future development. If you can't bear this, then don't work in this industry! I believe it is the same in other industries!

I have been working in the civil engineering industry since I graduated in 2011. It has been nearly ten years now. Let me tell you about my feelings!

First, the starting salary in the civil engineering industry is too low. If you are not a graduate of domestic 985 or 211 colleges and universities, you will not be able to enter a state-owned enterprise or a large enterprise. Otherwise, the starting salary is very low, about 3,000-4,000 yuan. If you are For a private boss, it is even lower, only 1,000-2,000 yuan.

Second, the working hours are long. If it is Party A or a supervisory unit, it may be better. If it is a holiday, you can take a few days off. If it is a construction unit, then basically don’t even think about it. There is no work all year round. Xiu, I basically go to get off work from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. every day. Sometimes I have to lay concrete all night long and have to go to work the next day. Calculating this, the hourly wage is pitifully low.

Third, the working environment is poor. Generally, the environment on the construction site is exposed to wind and sun. All the young men will be black and white after a few months. Some of the food is also relatively poor.

Fourth, the quality of the staff within the project is uneven. They smoke and drink. Many children who have just left school have learned everything in just a few months.

Fifth, the salary cannot It is distributed on time, if it is good, it is distributed once a month, sometimes once every quarter, or even not once every six months.

Sixth, welfare is not perfect. Many companies, including state-owned enterprises, have labor dispatch contracts, and the five insurance payment bases are based on the minimum payment base. The gap is too big with employees under formal contracts.

Seventh, and most importantly, it is too difficult for boys to find a wife. Even if they originally talked about it, they may break up because they are too busy to take care of it. After getting married, it is basically difficult to take care of their family and children, and After building a house all my life, I may not be able to afford it in the end. I feel like the gains outweigh the losses and I can't spend time with my family.

Graduates are not stupid. After working so hard to get 211,985 and go to the construction site to collect dust, it is better to just find a cram school to teach students.

I have just graduated 22 or 23 years old and am studying hard. Isn’t it good to take the postgraduate entrance examination? Wouldn't it be nice to take the civil service exam? I also study at the construction site. I go to the site during the day and stay up late at night to dust. If you have nothing to do, you still have to prepare to study, read the regulations and explain everything. What can't you learn if you have the energy?

Nowadays, there are many channels for obtaining information in society. Unlike a few years ago, you basically listened to some unreliable relative in the family and said that there are many good things about civil engineering. You can naturally get out of the pit.

When the economic environment is not good, life begins to be evaluated in multiple dimensions. In the past, when everyone had the ability to eat meat but not the ability to drink soup, whoever could eat meat would naturally rush to join this industry. Nowadays, most people don’t even get to eat their flesh, so why are they trying to steal a piece of it? Happiness is the most important thing, is Tumu happy? Obviously, if you don't like him, you can't be happy. Then just do some woolen work and run away.