Why is there Guangdong and Guangxi in history, but there is no Guangnan Guang Bei?

1. When it comes to "Guangdong" and "Guangxi", it is inevitable that "Guangdong and Guangxi are one family":

Ever since the emergence of Guangdong and Guangxi in history, we have been talking about Guangdong and Guangxi, and we are used to linking them and saying that "Guangdong and Guangxi are one family". Why is this? Because before Guangdong and Guangxi in history, Guangdong and Guangxi were actually one. Since the partition of Guangdong and Guangxi in history, Guangdong and Guangxi have always appeared together, set up together, and even managed together (such as the governor of Guangdong and Guangxi). Even in modern times, Guangdong and Guangxi were always different.

2. What was it called before "Guangdong" and "Guangxi"?

1. The author mentioned at the beginning of the article that Guangdong and Guangxi were actually one before there was Guangdong and Guangxi in history. Nowadays, Cantonese and Guangxi people will feel particularly cordial if they meet in other provinces or abroad, and they will call each other brothers! So when are Guangdong and Guangxi the same thing? We can date back to the Qin Dynasty at the earliest, and even to the pre-Qin period.

2. In the pre-Qin period, Guangdong and Guangxi belonged to Baiyue tribe in China and Lingnan area in China. During the Qin Dynasty, Qin Shihuang set up three counties in Lingnan, China: Nanhai County, Guilin County and Elephant County. Today, most of Guangdong belongs to Nanhai County, a few belong to Guilin County, and Nanhai Island belongs to Xiang County. Now, most of Guangxi belongs to Guilin County, and some of it belongs to Xiang Jun County. Guangdong, Guangxi and Vietnam all belonged to the South Vietnamese vassal state in the Han Dynasty. During the Tang Dynasty, Guangdong, Guangxi and Vietnam all belonged to Lingnan Road.

3. The division of "Guangdong" and "Guangxi" began in the Tang Dynasty:

The separation and division of "Guangdong" and "Guangxi" began in the Tang Dynasty. In 862 AD, in the third year of Xian Tong, Tang Yizong, the Tang Dynasty divided Lingnan Road into Lingnan East Road and Lingnan West Road. East of Lingnan Road is Lingnan East Road, which rules Guangzhou. It is the predecessor of Guangdong today and the origin of the word "East" in the name of Guangdong today. There is Lingnan West Road to the west of Lingnan Road, which governs Tanzhou, the predecessor of modern Guangxi, and is the origin of the word "West" in the name of modern Guangxi. This is the beginning of the division of Guangdong and Guangxi into things in history, and it is the first separation of Guangdong and Guangxi (that is, Guangdong and Guangxi)!

4. The names of "Guangdong" and "Guangxi" originated in the Song Dynasty:

During the period of Emperor Gaozu of the Song Dynasty, the Song Dynasty followed the old system of the Tang Dynasty and set up Guangnan Road. During the period of Song Taizong, Guangnan Road was also split in Song Dynasty, namely Guangnan East Road and Guangnan West Road. East of Guangnan Road, Guangnan East Road, referred to as "Guangdong", governs Guangzhou; To the west of Guangnan Road, Guangnan West Road, referred to as "Guangxi", governs Tanzhou. The name of "Guangdong and Guangxi" became universal and popular from the period of Song Taizong. This is the second separation of Guangdong and Guangxi in history. Today, there are abbreviations for "Guangdong" and "Guangxi"!

5. The names of "Guangdong" and "Guangxi" officially began in the Ming Dynasty:

There is a custom and tradition in ancient China. At the beginning of each new dynasty, they like to follow the old system of the previous dynasty. For example, the establishment of the Song Dynasty followed the old system of the Tang Dynasty and established Guangnan Road (following Lingnan Road of the Tang Dynasty). In the Song Dynasty, Guangnan Road was divided into Guangnan East Road and Guangnan West Road, which actually followed the old system of the Tang Dynasty (Guangnan East Road and Guangnan West Road). When the Ming Dynasty was founded, Zhu Yuanzhang also followed the old system of Yuan Dynasty, but did not set up "Lingnan Business Propaganda Department" and "Guangnan Business Propaganda Department" in combination with Guangdong and Guangxi. But directly, simply and in one step, the "Guangdong Provincial Propaganda Bureau and Ambassador Office" and "Guangxi Provincial Propaganda Bureau and Ambassador Office" were established. This is also the name of "Guangdong" and "Guangxi" today. In history, the imperial court officially began to use it, that is, the government officially began to use it in administrative divisions, rather than abbreviation.

The Qing Dynasty formally established six "Guangdong" and "Guangxi":

In fact, China's "province" first appeared in the Yuan Dynasty, which set up a Chinese book province in the central government and also set up Chinese book provinces all over the country. However, the imperial court formally established Guangdong and Guangxi provinces in today's Guangdong and Guangxi regions, and it was not formally established until the establishment of the Qing Dynasty. The Ming Dynasty perished and the Qing Dynasty was founded. The Qing dynasty also followed the old system of the Ming dynasty, but it no longer set up the "undertaking propaganda department", but changed the "undertaking propaganda department" to "province" Guangdong province was formally established as Guangdong province in Ming dynasty and Guangxi province was formally established as Guangxi province in Qing dynasty, which was the beginning of the formal establishment of Guangdong and Guangxi provinces in history.

Seven. There was "Guangnan" in history, but there was never "Guang Bei";

1. What is the division between "Guangdong, Guangxi" and "Guangnan, Guang Bei"?

First of all, we should understand under what premise we are discussing "Guangdong, Guangxi" and "Guangnan, Guang Bei". That is, under what premise and on what basis do we divide the so-called "Guangdong, Guangxi" and "Guangnan, Guang Bei". We all know that Guangdong and Guangxi belonged to Baiyue tribe in China and Lingnan area in China in ancient times, so the author thinks that the so-called "Guangdong and Guangxi" and "Guangnan Guang Bei" should be divided on the premise of Lingnan area.

2. China Lingnan area: the difference between China Lingnan area in a broad sense and China Lingnan area in a narrow sense.

In fact, the Lingnan area of China has always been divided into broad sense and narrow sense. Historically, China's generalized Lingnan area is relatively extensive, including not only Guangdong, Guangxi, Hong Kong, Macao and Hainan, but also the north-central part of ancient Annan (namely the Red River Delta) and parts of Hunan and Jiangxi provinces. In a narrow sense, Lingnan area in China only refers to Guangdong, Guangxi, Hong Kong, Macau and Hainan. Because the Qing Dynasty gave up the suzerainty over Annan in the late Qing Dynasty, the narrow sense of Lingnan area in China excluded Annan. To put it simply, China Lingnan area in a broad sense is mainly used in ancient times, and China Lingnan area in a narrow sense is mainly used in modern times.

3. There is "Guangnan" in history, but it has never been divided into "Guang Bei":

In addition to "Guangdong and Guangxi" in history, "Guangnan" also appeared. The author mentioned in the article that "Guangnan Road", that is, "Guangnan", was set up in the Song Dynasty and now in Guangdong and Guangxi (Guangdong and Guangxi areas) during the period of the Emperor Gaozu of the Song Dynasty. After that, Song Gaozong divided Guangnan East Road and Guangnan West Road on the basis of "Guangnan Road". In addition, there is a Quang Nam province in Vietnam today. However, the author finds that there has never been a formal administrative division, place name or title of "Guang Bei" in history, whether in the narrow sense of China or in the broad sense of China.

8. Where is the real "Guangnan" and "Guang Bei" area?

1. The so-called "Guangdong, Guangxi" and "Guangnan, Guang Bei" we discussed were actually divided on the premise and basis of Lingnan area in China. Therefore, in ancient times, especially before the Tang Dynasty, the real "Guangdong region" should be Guangdong, Hainan, Hong Kong and Macao today; The real "Guangxi region" should be the present western region; The real "Guangnan area" should be the ancient Annan area; The real "Guang Bei area" should be a part of Hunan and Jiangxi today.

2. After the Tang Dynasty, especially in modern times and modern times, the real "Guangdong region" should be today's Guangdong, Hong Kong and Macao; The real "Guangnan area" should be today's Hainan Island, or include today's western Guangdong and southeastern Guangxi; The real "Guang Bei area" should be the northeast of Guangxi and the northwest of Guangdong.

Nine. "Guangnan" has been put forward in modern times:

So, has the modern "Guangnan" ever been mentioned, conceived or put forward? In fact, there really was a proposal of "Guangnan" and "Guangnan Province" in modern times. This idea and suggestion is mainly in the private sector, that is, Yangjiang, Maoming and Zhanjiang in the west of Guangdong Province will be merged with Yulin and Beihai in the southeast of Guangxi Province to form a new "Guangnan Province" or directly establish a "Guangnan Municipality".

X. Will there be "Guangnan Guang Bei" in the future?

Now there are "Guangdong and Guangxi" and "Guangnan" in ancient times, so will there be "Guang Bei" in the future? Or, will there be "Guang Bei" and "Guangnan" in the future? Readers, what's your different opinion? The author talks about Guangdong and Guangxi, and welcomes comments, discussions and concerns in the comment area.