Debate: white lies and honesty (I am the opponent)

Hello, hosts and judges!

Today, I am very happy to put forward my own views on the debate whether white lies hinder integrity. The following are our views:

There is no doubt that a white lie is itself a lie. Lies, lying is cheating, cheating is immoral, immoral things are unpopular. These are all instilled by teachers since childhood. But we ask ourselves, who hasn't lied? For our relatives, friends or strangers, there are many purposes, but when we add "goodwill" to a lie, it seems that everyone can accept it, which is the concentrated expression of human weakness.

Mark? Twain once said, "When you can't make up your mind, tell the truth. It will embarrass your opponent and make your friends feel relieved. " So the psychologist's point of view is: don't lie easily, even if it is a white lie.

(Author: Wu Yunhui September 25 09:35)

[Moderator]:

Please debate and publish (by Natalie, 09:35 on September 25th)

[Moderator]:

Ask the other party to argue the post; (Author: Natalie September 25, 09:37)

[Counterparty]:

When the poor mother left the only meal for her child and concealed the fact that the child was still starving, do you still accuse the kind and noble maternal love of being "dishonest"? In fact, we can see the shadow of white lies everywhere in our lives, from the comfort with tears before our sickbed to the politeness when we politely refuse, from the dried-up sea of love to the beautiful exaggeration written by poets, but they are not so terrible that the other debater turns pale when he talks about "lies". (Author: Jiang Yan, September 25, 09:4 1)

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Please demonstrate and post; (Author: Natalie September 25, 09:42)

[for]:

Hello, hosts and judges!

Please note that even a white lie, as a lie itself, is a violation of honesty. Therefore, whether a lie is for a good purpose or not, as a lie itself will inevitably hinder honesty. So, I want to speak out here, let's reject white lies and build an honest society together. (Author: Jiang Wenbing September 25 09:43)

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Ask the other party to argue the post; (Author: Natalie September 25, 09:44)

[Counterparty]:

In the other side's argument, it is pointed out that when a person is faced with two kinds of obligations, when they are contradictory, the other side's obligations should be reduced. But the positive argument does not discuss that white lies and honesty are contradictory. How can we directly conclude that a white lie will definitely reduce the obligation of good faith?

Please pay attention to each other's defensive friends. We have made it clear that lies should have the function of cheating, and only malicious lies are cheating. Please don't narrow down the extension of the concept of "lies".

(Author: Chen Yueming September 25, 09:47)

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Please demonstrate and post; (Author: Natalie September 25, 09:47)

[for]:

Please note that there is a big omission in your defense. We think we should start with the definition to distinguish things and synthesize the interpretation of Kangxi Dictionary. A white lie is not seeking truth from facts, telling lies, exaggerating, covering up and distorting the facts. From the structural analysis of white lie phrases, it is a partial phrase and the head word is a lie, so white lie is a lie in essence. It is an indisputable fact that white lies are often used by some "professional liars" because of their uncertainty. A "lie" itself is dark, and the likes and dislikes of things are not measured by the purpose of things. A white lie itself is a lie. Although he has shed his beggar's clothes and put on his cheongsam, he still can't get rid of the essence of lies, which means cheating and hinders honesty. White lies have a good starting point, but once they are exposed, they will do more harm to each other. As a lie itself, it is already a violation of good faith.

Among the 20-character moral standards put forward in the Implementation Outline of Citizen Moral Construction promulgated by the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China, "sincerity" is a very important criterion, which means seeking truth and justice. The ancients said that "true self" was sincere. Not refined and sincere, not moving.

As General Secretary Hu Jintao said in his speech: "The socialist harmonious society we want to build should be a society with democracy and the rule of law, fairness and justice, honesty and friendship, vitality, stability and order, and harmony between man and nature."

From the above analysis, we believe that no matter whether a lie is for a good purpose or not, being a lie will inevitably hinder honesty. (Author: Jiang September 25 09:49)

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Ask the other party to argue the post; (Author: Natalie September 25, 09:50)

[Counterparty]:

White lies and honesty are different categories of ethics, and there will be no contradiction, just as cars will not hit planes.

Honesty: faith. In China culture, "faithfulness" and "righteousness" constitute "faithfulness", which is a humanistic spirit and a criterion for being a man. "Faith" and "sincerity" are interlinked, forming the moral standard of "sincerity", which is a product from Poland. Modern western legal sages put forward the concept of "contract society", and all kinds of relationships between people are contract relationships. In such a society, honesty is the bottom line of social morality. After the establishment of market economy in China, honesty has become the most important criterion for establishing a standardized and orderly market. Therefore, "honesty" in the modern sense is the moral principle of market operation.

White lies and all kinds of white lies are aimed at protecting each other's feelings and maintaining each other's mental health and pleasure, which is a humanistic spirit. Because of the existence of white lies, the world will become better, warmer and more harmonious, the world will be full of love and sunshine, children will grow up healthily, the elderly will enjoy their old age and patients will be full of hope.

Therefore, these are moral principles in two different fields, which will not conflict and contradict each other, and white lies will not hinder honesty.

A white lie is not a "lie" (a malicious lie), just as a whale in the sea is not a fish and a mouse is not a mouse. (Author: Huang September 25 09:54)

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Now enter the question stage. First of all, please demonstrate and post questions; (Author: Natalie September 25, 09:54)

[for]:

Asking the other party to argue that it is a lie? How can you have a good impression? ! It's goodwill! Why lie? !

Although a lie is well-intentioned, as a lie itself, it is a violation of good faith. Therefore, whether a lie is for a good purpose or not, making a lie will inevitably hinder honesty.

Looking back suddenly with the national spirit, it turns out that honesty is in the dim light. Thousands of years later, it can still be clearly heard that honesty is the virtue of the Chinese nation, just as the Great Wall is a symbol of the Chinese nation. If a person loses integrity, he will leave hypocrisy: if an enterprise loses integrity, it will face bankruptcy; And if a nation loses its integrity, it will degenerate and perish!

Keeping faith is the pure land of keeping faith, keeping faith is the success of keeping faith, and keeping faith is that the Chinese nation can last forever.

Here I want to ask other students, when a person loses integrity, is his starting point still good?

(Author: Xu September 25 09:56)

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Ask the other person to answer and ask questions (Author: Natalie, 09:57, September 25th)

[Moderator]:

Take the time to answer (Author: Natalie September 25th 10:02)

[Counterparty]:

Please pay attention to the other debater. Today I'm debating whether a white lie hinders honesty, not whether a dishonest person still has good intentions. Please clarify the causal logic. If the opponent's debater says it is a lie, how can it be well-intentioned? Do you doubt the existence of white lies? Since there is no white lie, is it still meaningful for our discussion today? (Author: Yu Lu, September 25th, 65438 +00:03)

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Please answer and ask questions in the affirmative (by Natalie, 10:03, September 25th)

[for]:

It's not necessary. Why are we sitting here arguing?

So-called white lies can also lead to unpredictable consequences. Give an example: someone is terminally ill. In order to let him spend the rest of his life safely, his relatives and friends have kept him in the dark. There is no malice or selfishness in this, but it is often unsatisfactory and deception cannot last long. On the contrary, patients lose the rationality of cooperating with treatment and the opportunity to deal with personal affairs. Sisera, a female philosopher? Polk warned that such a lie would put people on the verge of a great decline in personality. In the book "Lying, Moral Choice in Public Affairs and Private Life", she wrote: "Psychological barriers are gone, the ability to distinguish between true and false is more vague, and the concept that lies will not be detected may tend to be paranoid." Some psychologists who study lying suggest that anyone who wants to tell a "white lie" to his friends, relatives and colleagues had better think of a question involving psychological reaction. (Author: Wu Yunhui September 25th 10:07)

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Ask the other person to answer and ask questions (by Natalie, 10:07, September 25th)

[Counterparty]:

The other defendant has admitted that there is a white lie. Relatives and friends will not affect the treatment. In fact, for better treatment, stress will only affect the condition. A mother divorced her husband. At that time, children were not sensible. The mother told the child that your father is a sailor, and now he is abroad and will come back in a few days. Children are full of expectations for life, and they have never been distressed and feel inferior because they have lost a member of their family-their father. Later, the mother split up twice, found a new husband and established a new family, so she said to the child: Your father came back from abroad. In this way, there is no gap between the child and the father. The father regards the child as his own child because he is not a stranger. Counseling children every day will help them grow up healthily and become students in famous universities. One day, the child graduated from college, and she finally found out that her father was not a dear father. Although she cried, she was also distressed to be cheated. However, he will eventually understand that her mother is right, otherwise she won't have a happy childhood, a healthy mind, good academic performance, a happy family, and ... (too much).

I want to ask the other debater to ask himself, who in the world will doubt the other person's personality and integrity because of a white lie? (Author: Jiang Yan, September 25th 10: 15)

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Please answer in the affirmative and ask questions (by Natalie, September 25th, 10: 16).

[for]:

A white lie is an excuse!

Anyone who uses an excuse wants to use it to protect himself or others. Help us save face and let us endure setbacks.

Gasmel said: "It is quite common to think that you are better than yourself." The excuses people come up with are sometimes unexpected. Why should people deceive themselves? American humorist Ryder pointed out: "Most people don't live in reality, but in fantasy, especially their own fantasy." On the other hand, it is sometimes cruel to know the truth about yourself and your friends. Better not know.

However, most excuses are destructive. If you use excuses unconsciously, you will fool yourself even if you don't fool others. So I ask the other party to realize that more honesty and less excuses! At the same time, I want to ask each other, if everyone has this view, how can we build an honest society and make our country develop further in honesty?

(Author: Jiang Wenbing September 25th 10:24)

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Please answer the opposite of the three arguments and ask questions (by Natalie, 10:25, September 25)

[Counterparty]:

People always habitually give lies derogatory meanings. This is because of the credibility crisis in today's society. In fact, lies are neutral. Even if the morality of honesty is put forward in today's society, it is not required to tell the truth in all situations and it is not allowed to lie. A white lie is not a "lie" (a malicious lie). It is not contradictory to honesty, but has its own space. If you don't like the word "lie", we can mind that linguists create new words, such as "empty talk" and "gentle words" to express white lies.

White lies put aside ugliness and come to a beautiful world!

White lies abandon selfishness and come to an honest world!

Please give your opponent an example. Who was hurt by a white lie? Lead to the loss of integrity?

(Author: Chen Yueming, September 25th 10:29)

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Please answer and ask questions (by Natalie, September 25th, 10:29)

[for]:

You didn't answer the question of "Three Theories" directly. I think that even if a lie is well-intentioned, its negative effects can be seen everywhere. Why give an example? This negative influence on honesty is often hidden and chronic poisoning. Ignoring this poison is undoubtedly a cover-up Ask another debater, you always said that white lies and honesty are two categories. Would you please give an accurate definition of a white lie? (Author: Jiang September 25th 10:36)

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Ask the other person to answer and ask questions (by Natalie, 10:39, September 25th)

[Counterparty]:

"White lies are more excuses", which is said in the three debates. Does this sentence need to be demonstrated? Can you quote directly without argument? There is a serious logical error in directly demonstrating the harm of "excuses" in positive and negative arguments. At the same time, I found many logical mistakes in the other side's argument, so I won't list them here.

We asked the other party to cite examples, and the other party said that there were many examples, but none of them were cited.

As we all know, white lies are not a new concept, so why redefine them?

The Three Debates repeatedly emphasized that white lies are chronic poisoning and concealed, but they did not make rigorous arguments or cite examples, but came to a conclusion directly, which we could not agree with.

Excuse me, another debater, how does a white lie undermine integrity?

(Author: Huang September 25th 10:46)

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Please give a positive answer (by Natalie, September 25th, 10:47)

[for]:

Hello, Zhang Hui Xueyou!

Thank you very much for your trust and support! We must live up to the expectations of all teachers and students. (Author: Jiang September 25th 10:52)

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Answers after the debate (by Natalie, September 25th, 10:53)

[for]:

When two people were in love, they promised never to change their minds, but later they broke up. This was a white lie at that time, and later the injured party was severely hit. Whether we need people in this field to continue to talk about the truth is a very simple question. Just as white lies are an excuse for this view, Japan has ignored historical facts and distorted history, and achieved great results. When the German President sincerely repented the victims of World War II, he won not only the Nobel Peace Prize, but also the understanding and tolerance of people all over the world.

If a country or a nation can always treat and evaluate objective things with a fair heart, it will certainly create an atmosphere of honesty and integrity, rather than a vicious circle of intrigue.

Zhu? In the government work report made at the Fifth Session of the Ninth National People's Congress, Premier F pointed out that it is necessary to "strengthen the construction of social credit and gradually form a good fashion of honesty and morality in the whole society". Making friends in good faith is an important content of Chinese traditional morality, and it is also a fundamental move to maintain the normal operation of the economy, promote institutional innovation, and rectify and standardize the market economic order at present and in the future. At present, with the rapid development of economy and society and the evolution of people's values, the lack of credit in some fields and individuals has increasingly become a distressing social hazard, which must be highly valued. As the other side argues, a lie can't be white, because it hinders honesty. What is honesty, my friend? What is lacking in our society? (Author: Xu September 25th 10:54)

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The question stage is over, so let's start the free debate now. Please post it first. (Author: Natalie September 25th 10:55)

[for]:

We believe that so-called white lies are harmful to integrity. Of course, the lies here are not what people usually call shocking scams, but lies that pretend to affirm or support (actually disapprove) the practices, opinions or opinions of spouses, relatives and friends.

Take Tom, the company manager in Southern California, for example. Tom spends Thanksgiving with his wife and son at his mother-in-law's house every year. In fact, he didn't like the "special" pumpkin pie made by his mother-in-law, but he told her how delicious her pie was so as not to hurt her feelings. "Is it wrong to do so?" Tom asked when consulting a psychiatrist. This is a question that many people will ask. The psychiatrist asked him to look at the lie from his mother-in-law's point of view. Suppose one day, Tom's son confided the truth in front of his grandmother, and her mother-in-law discovered Tom's true feelings. She will tell Tom, "Thank you for your kindness?" I also felt emotionally hurt and said, "How could you mislead me like this for so many years? What else are you hiding from me? " Besides, what questions will Tom's mother-in-law have about herself? Does Tom's son also want to imitate his father's lies? What would he think of his father's character? Will he still believe what his father said?

A novelist once wrote this sentence: "When we first tried to lie, we fell into a web of chaos that we woven."

We believe that there are fundamental mistakes in the other party's understanding and understanding of some concepts. Honesty is based on the frankness of the other party. Any deception, even a so-called "white-hearted" lie, can be said to be completely sad and relaxed with frankness. I don't think the concept of "honesty" needs to be demonstrated here, and it has been analyzed clearly. (Author: Wu Yunhui, September 25th, 65438+)

[for]:

Honesty has been advocated since ancient times. The history can be traced back to 359 BC, and Shang Yang's legislation in Qin Dynasty enriched Qiang Bing with honesty. The story of "South Gate Standing" was staged. Shang Yang has been engaged in legal work for ten years. "Everyone in Qin is happy. If the road is not left behind, there will be no thieves in the mountains, and the family will give enough to others." Today, with China's entry into the WTO and the growing market economy, it will do great harm to economic life and bring disastrous consequences to social life if fake and shoddy products are allowed to run rampant and lose their credibility. The turbidity current of dishonesty will erode the trust between people like a plague and hinder the pace of socialist market economy. It is urgent to advocate honesty, punish dishonesty and improve credit ethics and credit legal system.

Excuse me, how can a lie be good to a friend? If it is a lie, it will hinder honesty. Excuse me, what is honesty? What does our society need? (Author: Xu September 25th 10:59)

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Reply from the other party (Author: Natalie, September 25th 10:59)

[Counterparty]:

Another debater quoted lovers in love who promised each other that they would never change their minds, but later broke up. This is not a white lie, but a malicious lie. It is a deception of the other party's feelings, and it cannot prove that malicious lies are deceptive. (Author: Yu Lu, September 25th 1 1:00)

[for]:

We should reject lies and stick to honesty. How can we avoid the embarrassment encountered by the other party in work and life? We want to:

If you refuse at the beginning, there will be no embarrassing situation later. We are now living in an open and unpopular era.

"Don't say that the hat worn by the aunt next door is ugly, do you hear?"

"You have to say to the new class teacher,' I'm glad you are our class teacher'!"

We don't say similar words from the heart, but choose nice words that don't make people sad. This is because we believe that there can be no shortage of white lies in life.

Shall we look at the problem from the opposite angle? Someone wears an ugly hat, and we can tell him realistically that it's really bad. This is because always telling white lies will also bring you trouble. So we should learn when to tell the truth and when to tell a white lie, otherwise it will lead to the result of not knowing the truth from the false.

For example, suppose you receive a birthday invitation from a friend who is not very close at the weekend. You don't want to go, but you refuse because you are afraid of each other's anger, and your promise is ambiguous. Time flies. It's almost my friend's birthday, and you still don't want to go. Now I'll find a reason to tell each other that you can't go. Think about it, what will the other party think of you at this time? The other party will definitely see that you are reluctant to leave and will be very angry.

You didn't refuse at first, but you still made your friend angry. What will it be like to show your attitude when you receive an invitation?

"I'm glad to be invited, but I can't go because I have something in town that day."

If you refuse at the beginning, there will be no embarrassment later.

(Author: Jiang Wenbing September 25th 1 1:0 1)

[Counterparty]:

Deception is definitely a lie, and a lie is not necessarily a deception.

There are two kinds of lies: malicious and white. Lying is human instinct. As for whether it is honest or not, the key lies in what kind of lies it tells. Then a malicious lie can of course be said to be cheating. Malicious lies are an act of seeking benefits for liars, aiming at others, with a strong desire for profit, weak rationality and hurting others at the expense of others. It is an act that harms others and does not benefit others. People with ulterior motives, no matter how disguised, how rhetoric, how to rack their brains to give their malicious lies a malicious purpose. But a white lie is not. Its motive is kindness and its purpose is to safeguard the interests of others. The essence of a white lie determines that it is not malicious, but based on sincerity and kindness in the heart. The white lies that good people are "forced" to tell in a certain state are well-intentioned and a kind of kindness and concern for the subject. This kind of lie is also a way of life, which reflects the quality of caring for others. Obviously, a white lie does not hinder honesty. A world without lies, like a dust-free earth, does not exist. The key is how to use it. A white lie will not hinder honesty.