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Is dou a bad king? Is Zhuge Aliang a powerful or loyal minister?
Speaking of Zhuge Liang, he is indeed a powerful minister, and everything is in his charge. It can be said that there are few ministers with such power in the history of China; Similarly, Zhuge Liang is also a loyal minister with a clear conscience. He received the order at a critical moment. In order to repay the kindness of his ancestors and continue the kingdom of Shu Han, he did his best and died. This is not a big loyal minister.
Dou doesn't even deserve to be called a bad king! He is the king of a country in vain, but he has no moral integrity of "the emperor protects the country and the king dies"
Zhuge Liang is a loyal minister, and his sincere emotion of "devoting all his efforts to death before doing it" has turned into the eternity of history. A generation of China people love him because they have sublimated a lofty professional spirit from his performance of "Defeating Shu Han Xing"!
(Liu Chan)
If we say that during the 40 years of Liu Chan's rule, the Shu-Han regime did not make achievements against Liu Chan, it was also based on the literary attacks of civil officials and military commanders on Zhuge Liang, Jiang Wan, Fei Biao and Jiang Wei. After 40 years in office, he was actually a "cutting shopkeeper".
Is he in a coma? Don't faint! He has long lost confidence in the "revolution" and has been asking himself: How long can the banner of "Shu" last? Of course, in a sense, his worry is right.
However, as the successor appointed by my late master, I will carry on the legacy of my late master and carry the revolution to the end!
Perhaps the ancestors had an ominous premonition that this doll might "go against Lao Tzu's wishes and even lose his family business" in the future, so it was clearly stated that Zhuge Liang could "replace it!"
(Baidicheng entrust an orphan)
In order to repay the kindness of the late Lord and understand the soul-stirring entrustment of the late Lord Baidicheng, Zhuge Liang may have a sense of urgency, so under the grim situation that Liu Chan had just acceded to the throne to revolt, he adopted the strategy of "suppressing and soothing at the same time, using kindness and prestige", quickly quelling the rebellion, and after a short preparation, he began five consecutive Northern Expeditions.
Zhuge Liang tried his best to win Xuchang, complete the task of the Northern Expedition and comfort his ancestors.
What does Liu Chan think?
Please look at Liu Chan's surrender to Wargo. According to "Three Biographies of the Three Kingdoms and Shu Shu", "Limit the division of Jianghan, follow the rank of Shu scholars, fight for a corner, and make a mistake ....."
We Shu and Han people, separated by the Yangtze River and the Hanshui River, go against our fate as if we were living in a foolish bucket. Year after year, as soon as I acceded to the throne, Emperor Wen (Cao Pi) declared a gentle and intimate imperial edict to me, which showed me the way out. But I was ignorant and incompetent. I coveted the throne left by my father and lived for many years, but I didn't follow the instructions. Now the imperial army is very strong. .....
My own men laid down their weapons and took off their armor, completely protecting the treasure in the vault ... I knelt on the ground thinking about saving Wayne, ... The ceremony of life and death is up to you, and I carried the coffin and surrendered. ......
(Liu Chan's son Liu Chenxiang)
At this time, Jiang Wei is fighting fiercely in Jiange, and there are still tens of thousands of troops who can help Chengdu. However, the southern troops have not yet started to reinforce him, and the situation is very good. Unfortunately, Jiang Wei can only cut stones with a knife to vent his disappointment!
Therefore, A Dou is the mud that can't help the wall, and he is a rebel who defected from the line of fire.
About Zhuge Liang
Indeed, he is a military and political leader. Does Liu Can Chen have a good idea? No history. Therefore, it is Zhuge Liang's consistent style to do everything personally. However, the consequence of this is that he will hurt his body, so the prime minister will die soon.
Zhuge Liang's fatal mistake was not to equip Guan Yu with loyal and effective assistants to help defend Nanjun, which was of course an accommodation to Guan Yu.
Zhuge Liang unified all the cadres of the three factions in Shu, appointed Jiang Wan to stay in the Prime Minister's Office, and used the steady Wang Ping.
He is not only a model of feudal morality, but also the commander-in-chief of the three armed forces with outstanding political wisdom and military talent.
He is not called a powerful minister like Huo Guang. He is an eternal loyal minister!
No, it's Zhao Gou and others. Knowing that Shu was weak, the Northern Expedition did nothing. But people's hearts are available, and books are great talents. Let him go. Moreover, the story of happiness shows the depth of talent. It is the cleverest to return home from darkness and ensure your own safety! Zhuge Cheng is not a powerful minister, but he can't move Huang Hao, and some personnel arrangements also respect the opinions of the deceased. Power minister is a neutral word, which is not suitable for great men.
According to some historical records in the History of the Three Kingdoms, it can be judged that Adou is not a bad king, but Zhuge Liang is a loyal minister. Let's discuss it with you here.
Zhuge Liang is a loyal minister. Zhuge Liang, adhering to Confucianism, dared not be emperor even if he had extremely high power. Liu Bei's trust in Zhuge Liang, especially the sentence "If he is incompetent, he can keep it for himself", we can feel that Zhuge Liang was even endowed with extremely high power, and Zhuge Liang also showed great loyalty and devoted himself to the cause of Shu Han. In fact, since Battle of Red Cliffs, Zhuge Liang has done more "logistics" work, which seems to have been "forgotten" by his late master, but he is still conscientious. Although Zhuge Liang seemed to be centralized when he assisted Liu Chan, according to Pei Songzhi's Notes on the Three Kingdoms, Zhuge Liang was entrusted by the late king, and underage Liu Chan was not familiar with administrative affairs, which was the overall situation. His heart has not changed, and he is bent on restoring the political system in the early Han Dynasty. So Zhuge Liang is a loyal minister.
For A Dou, everyone was blinded by the phrase "A Dou who can't afford to help", and everyone thought he was incompetent and mentally retarded. In fact, Zhuge Liang once commented on Liu Chan's "great wisdom" and said that he was very clever. His expression may be exaggerated, but Liu Chan is still very talented. After Zhuge Liang's death, he abolished the prime minister system and appointed Jiang Wan as Fu and Fei Yi as General. Their roles were cross-balanced, which reflected their talents. Of course, he still did a lot of stupid things, trusted and reused villains, surrendered without fighting, and even had fun in Luoyang after his national subjugation. Therefore, Liu Chan is talented, not a complete bad king.
To sum up, Zhuge Liang is a loyal minister; We should see A Dou's fatuous side, and at the same time affirm his brilliant side.
Dou is not a bad king, Zhuge Liang is a loyal minister, which is a big principle. The specific reasons are as follows:
Among the self-proclaimed emperors of the Three Kingdoms, Liu Chan was in office for the longest time (223-263), totaling 40 years. Can a person who can sit in the dragon chair for 40 years be a bad king?
Liu Chan, the first emperor, was loyal and filial, generous and tolerant. He abided by Liu Bei's last words, respected Zhuge Liang, and called him the phase father, commanding the military and political power, and the prime minister decided everything.
Zhuge Liang made several northern expeditions. Although Liu Chan didn't quite agree with him, he fully supported him, which showed his respect for his father. At the same time, it can be seen that Liu Chan's mind is very clear. He realized the gap between Shu Han's national strength and Cao Wei's, so he disapproved of the Northern Expedition, wasting people and money, and it was not worth the candle! Liu Chan didn't stop the Northern Expedition because he knew that if the monarch and his subjects were at odds, there would be civil strife. Can you say that he is a person with low IQ?
Liu Chan, the late ruler, was kind to ministers because he lived a luxurious and corrupt life. Veteran Dong Yun wrote a letter, but Liu Chan was helpless. He can only restrain himself and correct himself. He didn't kill the detainees, but treated them leniently. This kind of training is really beyond the reach of the average emperor.
Zhuge Liang assisted Liu Chan 1 1 year. After his father died, the late ruler Liu Chan was emperor for another 30 years with the help of wise ministers. He continued to implement some good policies and measures formulated by Zhuge Liang before his death, abolished the prime minister system, made Fei Yi a minister and a general, and made Jiang Wan a fu, one in charge of military affairs and the other in charge of government affairs, which crossed and contained each other. Military, political and domestic affairs are no longer dominated by the government.
When the West Shu perished, Liu Chan chose to surrender in order to protect the safety of the people in the city, because if he resisted, on the one hand, his strength was poor, on the other hand, he would be slaughtered by Cao Wei. I would rather be humiliated than protect the people. This is a kind of great love, virtue and courage!
Finally, Liu Chan is not a bad king.
So, is Zhuge Liang a powerful minister?
Zhuge Liang repaid Liu Bei's kindness with all he had. The Eight Faces Castle was built on his fame. The Three Kingdoms, torn apart, were bound by his greatness and perished after his death. In order to restore the Han Dynasty, Zhuge Liang worked hard and exhausted the battlefield, and wrote a life hymn of loyalty, filial piety, propriety, benevolence and wisdom, which was a model admired by all later generations.
Although there is a historical fact that "everything depends on the prime minister", it is all for the long-term stability of Shu Han. He managed the country well, worked diligently and loved the people, and made unremitting efforts to realize the ideal goal of reunification in the Han Dynasty. He regarded the late ruler Liu Chan as his son, earnestly taught him, coaxed him and carefully helped him. Abide by the way of being an official, be upright and honest, and remain uncorrupted.
As a prime minister, Zhuge Liang was in power in the ruling and opposition, but he did not replace him. On the contrary, he tried his best to help the late ruler Liu Chan, which embodied the word "loyalty".
Isn't such a person a loyal minister?
I think it's a loyal minister, not a powerful minister. Loyal ministers are for the country and strong ministers are for themselves!
That's my answer. If you have different opinions, please comment and exchange!
Dou is not a bad king, but a mediocre minister, and Zhuge Liang is a powerful minister. This is the view of knowing the truth.
Adou's qualifications are mediocre. After Zhuge Liang's death, the post of Prime Minister was abolished, and generals Jiang Wan and Fei Yi were jointly in charge. The purpose of doing this is obvious, that is, I want to intervene in the specific affairs of Shu Han. Especially after Jiang Wan rested for several years, he specially ordered Jiang Wan to prepare for the Northern Expedition, which shows that he wanted to be in charge.
The problem is, after working for a few years, this guy found himself too tired to do it, and threw it back to Fei Yi, Dong Yun, Chen Zuo and others.
From this point of view, his qualifications are indeed mediocre, but not fatuous.
Why do you say that? He trusted his lieutenants, which was rare among ancient emperors. Many emperors have high levels and strong abilities, but they don't trust their subordinates. The most typical one is Xiang Yu. Of course, some people blindly trust their subordinates, leading to civil strife. The most typical ones are Liang Wudi and Hou Jing.
This is very beneficial to Liu Chan. When Zhuge Liang was in power, he did not interfere too much. Later, when Jiang Wan and Fei Yi were in charge, he didn't interfere too much. When Jiang Wei was in power, he didn't trust Jiang Wei, so he used Huang Hao to restrict Jiang Wei, but he didn't take the initiative to target Jiang Wei, just to maintain a balance of power.
His mediocrity lies in that after Zhuge Liang's death, he only selected talents from aristocratic families, which led to the decline of talents in the late Shu and Han Dynasties.
Zhuge Liang is a powerful minister because he leads Yizhou to graze. At that time, the real territory of Shu Han was this state. In a word, Zhuge Liang was a master at that time. Therefore, in the history books such as The History of the Three Kingdoms and History as a Mirror, there is often a saying: the government is out of Ge's family.
After Zhuge Liang's death, Sun Quan asked, Can you handle it without Zhuge Liang now? This also highlights the power of Zhuge Liang. The death or abolition of the characters recorded in Biographies of Liu Peng, Liao Li, Liu Wei and Yang may be related to Zhuge Liang, and it is considered that Chen Shou made Zhuge Liang's black material.
Zhuge Liang is a powerful minister, but he is loyal to Shu Han. Where is the main surface?
Li Yan once suggested that he add nine tin, which was actually a prelude to the power of the powerful minister, but Zhuge Liang refused. As for Zhuge Liang's title, there is no title of duke or king, but only Hou, which is also the performance of Zhuge Liang's loyal subjects.
Zhuge Liang was incorruptible all his life and restrained his children. These are all signs of loyalty.
Therefore, loyal ministers and powerful ministers do not conflict.
Another loyal minister is Sima Yi. In the end, he didn't ask Wei to add nine tin to him, nor did he give him a title. The problem is that his descendants finally won the throne of Wei on his basis, so Sima Yi's image in later generations is no longer a loyal minister.
History is indeed a coincidence. If Zhuge Liang's son died an adult, or his stepson Zhuge Qiao didn't die, maybe no one knows how history will go.
Just as follwed doesn't seize the throne, it is estimated that he is another Huo Guang-style figure. When the powerful minister takes that step, he is no longer a loyal minister. If you don't go out, you are naturally loyal.
Chi wrote many articles analyzing the theme of the Three Kingdoms. If you are interested, you can look for it yourself.
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Whether the monarch is a bad king depends first on whether he has the final say. If you don't count, you can't feel dizzy if you want to. Adou kept his word not only in the era of Zhuge Liang, but also in the era of Jiang Wan, Fei Yi and Dong Yun. It was not until the era of Jiang Wei and Chen Hao that Adou gradually came to power and began to have the final say. The decision at this time is only relative, and more importantly, he is not cruel to the people. In a word, A Dou can't be called a bad king. It seems that this person is really not that interested in governing the country.
As for Zhuge Liang, there seems to be no contradiction between the powerful and loyal ministers. Military and political power, can not say that he is not a high-ranking minister; If he is not a loyal minister, I can only ask what is a loyal minister?
Lead: Among all the self-proclaimed emperors in the Three Kingdoms, Liu Chan has been in office for the longest time, totaling 40 years. Can a person who can sit in a dragon chair for 40 years be a bad king?
Liu Chan (2007-271year), the ruler in the last years of Shu and Han dynasties, was a public heir with another name, Dou. The son of Emperor Liu Bei of Zhaolie, his mother was the second emperor of Shu and Han during the Three Kingdoms period, Queen Gan of Zhaolie. When I was young, I experienced many disasters. Fortunately, General Zhao Yun saved me twice. Liu Bei entered Shu after making Yizhou his capital, and made Shu Han a prince. He succeeded to the throne in 223 AD and reigned for 42 years. During the period, he worshipped Zhuge Liang as his father and supported Jiang Wei's Northern Expedition. Later, he doted on Huang Hao, which led to the gradual decline of Shu Han.
In the sixth year of Jing Yao (263), Wei invaded Wargo from level tone, defeated Mianzhu, killed Zhuge Zhan and his son, and surrendered. After the death of Shu Han, Liu Chan and some Shu Han ministers were moved to Luoyang to live. They were named Duke of Happiness and then died in Luoyang. At age 64. At the end of the Western Jin Dynasty, posthumous title Sigong, after Liu Yuan Uprising, made Liu Chan Emperor of Filial Piety.
Is dou a bad king? Anyone who has read The Romance of the Three Kingdoms knows that it was Liu Bei's son, nicknamed Dou, and later the emperor of Shu was called Dou, because the Shu-Han regime was destroyed in his generation and he surrendered to Wei, shedding a joke of "not thinking about Shu".
Presumably, when you look at the Three Kingdoms, you will always gnash your teeth and denounce this disappointing "fight". When you were blind in infancy, Uncle Zhao Zilong of Changshan rescued you from a million-strong army in Changbanpo. Your father, Liu Huangshu, was blind and was defeated in the Crusades. On his deathbed, Baidicheng became an orphan. It's a waste of Zhuge's hard work, setting an example as a "model worker" and doing your best to manage your internal affairs.
Although Zhuge Liang's eldest son, Zhuge Zhan, was killed in battle, his form did not get out of control. Liu Chan could insist on waiting for Jiang Wei's army to come back, and then, and then, it was gone. Only when Jiang Wei was dying, he was still planning a mutiny and revival.
So let's go back to our question-is Liu Chan really a piece of mud, an "unstoppable bucket"?
Not really. According to historical records, Zhuge Liang died in 234 AD, and Shu was destroyed in 263. In other words, after Zhuge Liang's death, Liu Chan was emperor for 29 years. Although Liu Chan was incompetent, he was not a completely bad king. Liu Chan can rule for 465,438+0 years, and he is still very good at it.
Liu Chan, the first emperor, was loyal and filial, generous and tolerant. He abided by Liu Bei's last words, respected Zhuge Liang, and called him the phase father, commanding the military and political power, and the prime minister decided everything.
Zhuge Liang made several northern expeditions. Although Liu Chan didn't quite agree with him, he fully supported him, which showed his respect for his father. At the same time, it can be seen that Liu Chan's mind is very clear. He realized the gap between Shu Han's national strength and Cao Wei's, so he disapproved of the Northern Expedition, wasting people and money, and it was not worth the candle! Liu Chan didn't stop the Northern Expedition because he knew that if the monarch and his subjects were at odds, there would be civil strife. Can you say that he is a person with low IQ?
Liu Chan, the late ruler, was kind to ministers because he lived a luxurious and corrupt life. Veteran Dong Yun wrote a letter, but Liu Chan was helpless. He can only restrain himself and correct himself. He didn't kill the detainees, but treated them leniently. This kind of training is really beyond the reach of the average emperor.
Zhuge Liang assisted Liu Chan 1 1 year. After his father died, the late ruler Liu Chan was emperor for another 30 years with the help of wise ministers. He continued to implement some good policies and measures formulated by Zhuge Liang before his death, abolished the prime minister system, made Fei Yi a minister and a general, and made Jiang Wan a fu, one in charge of military affairs and the other in charge of government affairs, which crossed and contained each other. Military, political and domestic affairs are no longer dominated by the government.
When the West Shu perished, Liu Chan chose to surrender in order to protect the safety of the people in the city, because if he resisted, on the one hand, his strength was poor, on the other hand, he would be slaughtered by Cao Wei. I would rather be humiliated than protect the people. This is a kind of great love, virtue and courage!
In a word, Liu Chan is not a bad king.
Is Zhuge Aliang a powerful or loyal minister? Is Zhuge Liang also a powerful minister? The answer is naturally yes, and this matter has to start from Liu Bei's deathbed. In February of the third year of Zhangwu in Shu Han Dynasty, Liu Bei, defeated by Dongwu, was seriously ill, and Zhuge Liang was rushed to Yong 'an Palace to discuss the affairs.
Knowing that his sons Mo Ruofu, Liu Bei and even Liu Yuxin Chen Dou are humble teenagers, I'm afraid it's difficult to control the complicated situation, so he said to Zhuge Liang, "As long as it's ten times that of Cao Pi, we can settle down in the world and eventually achieve great things. If the heir can supplement it, supplement it; If he is incompetent, you can bear it yourself. Zhuge Liang cried and said,' I dare to use all my strength to serve Loyalty Festival and then die!' This is the famous Baidicheng trusteeship.
Later, Liu Bei issued two imperial edicts, one of which was "the letter was made clear to the prime minister, and the ministers ordered Li Yan to be the deputy"; Secondly, let Liu Yuxin Chen "get in touch with the Prime Minister and act like a father". After Liu Bei's death, Liu Yuxin Chen ascended the throne, and Zhuge Liang was appointed as the marquis of Wuxiang, "ruling the country by opening a government" and "taking charge of Yizhou animal husbandry", and became the number one minister of Shuhan regime. According to historical records, "there are no details in political affairs, and the salt is determined by the light."
After Zhuge Liang became a powerful minister of Shu and Han, he did not let Li Yan be his deputy according to Liu Bei's will, but let him guard Yong 'an, which actually excluded him from the highest decision-making level of the imperial court. At that time, the ministers of Wei wrote to Zhuge Liang directly, saying that "Chen's destiny is to make the world princes", which shows that in wei ren's mind, Zhuge Liang is the emperor behind the scenes.
Even the Emperor Shu Han said, "Politics is for Ge's family, but sacrifice is for me." It can be seen that Zhuge Liang is powerful. Although Zhuge Liang monopolizes power, he is different from other dignitaries. He did not train his son to take over like Cao Cao, nor did he establish his own power like Sima Yi. He devoted himself to the development of Shu Han.
Li Yan once wrote a letter to Zhuge Liang, urging him to be "worthy of nine tin and crowned king". As we all know, when Cao Cao and his son seized the throne of the Han Dynasty, they also followed this process, adding nine tin, then claiming the throne and finally usurping the throne. Zhuge Liang did not directly answer Li Yan, but said, "I am an oriental corporal, and I was mistaken for the former emperor, official position and minister, and was given tens of billions by Lu." Today, the thief failed, and the confidant did not answer. It was not his intention to spoil Qi Jin and sit on the ground. "
Zhuge Liang also said in his letter: "If Wei is destroyed and Rui is cut, the emperor will return to his former residence and rise with all the people. Although ten lives are ok, the situation is not as good as nine evils. " In fact, Zhuge Liang took this opportunity to show that he only wanted to do his best for the Shu-Han regime, and he didn't care about personal fame and fortune at all. Zhuge Liang proved his loyalty with his actions, and finally died in the Northern Expedition, which made future generations admire him.
Summary: People are always multifaceted, even a sage like Zhuge Liang will have a less glorious side. Therefore, whether we look at history or people in reality, we should look at it dialectically. Blindly seeing good or bad is easy to be blinded by a leaf.
There is no denying the fact that A Dou, that is, Liu Chan's remarks since ancient times are all bad kings. The only thing he did right in his life was to remember the teachings of his father Liu Bei and attach importance to Zhuge Liang, who has never wavered in his life.
In The Romance of Three Kingdoms, Liu Chan has a certain magical color. When he was born, the room was full of red light and cranes sang to celebrate; In Cao's camp, he killed people and horses, and was fooled by a red light from his body. According to the popular saying in ancient times, strangers must have visions. Liu bang is protected by a real dragon when he sleeps; When Sun Quan was born, his mother dreamed that the moon would fall into her arms. It seems that Liu Chan will have an unusual opportunity in the future. But as a result, he ascended the throne with the merit of his father Liu Bei, but there was no bright spot in his later performance. In the later period, he even favored eunuchs, undermined state affairs and eventually led to the demise of Shu Han. After surrendering to Cao Wei, there even appeared a famous saying "I am happy here but don't think about Shu" at the banquet. Such a monarch is not a bad king or something.
As for Zhuge Liang, he is naturally a loyal minister. In fact, since ancient times, loyal ministers, especially important ministers, are difficult to distinguish from powerful ministers. Because many times they look almost the same. It is also powerful and arbitrary, so that the monarch has to make concessions and compromises in some aspects. The most intuitive examples: Huo Guang in the Western Han Dynasty, Cao Cao in the Eastern Han Dynasty, Zhuge Liang in Shu and Zhang in the Ming Dynasty. These four people held high positions in the then dynasty, and even had their own party power. When they were in power, the reigning emperor had little say. On the surface, there really isn't much difference.
However, if you look at the results, such a difference is obvious. Huo Guang joined the Han Dynasty. Although there is a lot of discussion about abolishing legislation, he is selfless and naturally loyal. And Cao Cao is almost the representative of the powerful minister. Although he also made contributions to the recovery and development of the Central Plains when he came to power, and he also intended to help the country, in the final analysis, it was only for his own political achievements, not for the Han family. After his death, his son Cao Pi almost couldn't wait to abolish Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty and sit on his own, but there was almost no turmoil in the DPRK, which was the foundation laid by Cao Cao.
As for Zhuge Liang, since the death of Liu Bei, he has almost shouldered the burden of Shu Han. Whether it is military and political or general civil affairs, he has personally asked. His prime minister's mansion is almost equal to that of Liu Chan's palace, and he himself also mentioned in The Model that "the palaces stand side by side, and there should be no similarities and differences", while the ministers in the late Shu Dynasty, such as Guo Youzhi, Fei Yi and Dong Yun, are almost all close friends and proteges of Zhuge Liang. When Shu was in power, he only knew the Prime Minister, but he didn't know there was another son of heaven. But all his efforts are to help this weak country grow and develop, and finally realize Liu Bei's ideal of "prospering Han". After Zhuge Liang's death, there was no money left at home, and his descendants did not have any titles. From this aspect alone, it is enough to prove Kong Ming's loyalty.
"Three summonses put state affairs first, and the second generation takes the heart of a child." Such an old minister who has devoted himself to death cannot be defiled.
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Liu Chan, the last ruler of the Shu-Han Dynasty, was neither a bad king nor a wise king. He was just a middle-level king. Zhuge Liang, a generation of counsellors, experienced Liu Bei and Liu Chan's father-son dynasty, held a high position, influenced the world and became a prominent dynasty. Therefore, Zhuge Liang is not only a loyal minister who is loyal to the monarch and serves the country, but also a capable minister of Shu Han.
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