Is Yuan Hong Sun Wukong?

Is Yuan Hong in the list of gods the Monkey King?

Of course not, let’s analyze: 1. The original work of "Journey to the West" does not say who the reincarnation of the Monkey King is, so the TV series The relevant plots in it are just made up and cannot explain any problems; 2. "Journey to the West" and "Fengshen Yanyi" have no connection. On the contrary, "Fengshen Yanyi" is very likely to be connected with "Journey to the West". From Wu Chengen and Xu Zhonglin Judging from the time of his birth and death, "The Romance of the Gods" should have been written after "Journey to the West", so Sun Wukong cannot be the continuation of Yuan Hong, and the image of Yuan Hong may be imitating Sun Wukong, or Xu Zhonglin may be Deliberately making "The Romance of the Gods" look like a prequel to "Journey to the West". 3. Judging from the content of the original work, Sun Wukong had already been conceived by the immortal stone when the Five Emperors were determined, and Yuan Hong was a monster in the late Shang Dynasty and early Zhou Dynasty. There is no way Sun Wukong could be the reincarnation of Yuan Hong. Are Yuan Hong and Sun Wukong the same person?

The monkey Yuan Hong. In the battle of the gods at the end of the Shang Dynasty and the beginning of the Zhou Dynasty, Yuan Hong, the boss of the Seven Monsters of Meishan, played an important role. There was no winner in the battle with Erlang Shen, and he was immortal despite not taking the elixir from the Supreme Laojun. In the end, he was imprisoned by the Jiangshan Sheji Tu, the top artifact refined by Nuwa at the beginning of Chaos, and finally used the mysterious Taoist Lu Ya's flying knife that can kill gods and Buddhas was enough to annihilate him. Lingming stone monkey, Sun Wukong. This is the most famous of the four monkeys, the Monkey King, the Monkey King worshiped by thousands of people. Sun Wukong is the only one among the four monkeys who has more than one master. The first master is Patriarch Bodhi, who is known as the ancestor of earthly immortals and talked about sutras and Taoism with Tathagata Buddha. He has disciples all over the three realms; the second master is Jin Chanzi, the great disciple of Tathagata Buddha who is the number one in the Eastern Immortal Realm. Is Yuan Hong the previous life of Sun Wukong?

Two explanations: The first is: Said that Yuanhong is the red-hatted horse and monkey who became enlightened. The red-hatted horse and monkey know Yin and Yang, understand people and affairs, are good at going in and out, avoid death and prolong life. Hong Tianjun knew that he was going to be on the list of gods, but he had no choice but to seal part of his spiritual wisdom into the five-color sacred stone. Later, Hong Tianjun, the ape who stood on the throne of the gods, died, and the sanity that originally flowed from his body was listed on the list of gods. Among the five-colored sacred stones, Sun Wukong was transformed into the Lingming Stone by absorbing the spiritual energy of heaven and earth. Hong Tianjun will be able to get off the list of gods when Sun Wukong's path reaches adulthood. The second one is not: Yuan Hong died when a disciple of the Jie Cult was standing at the Conferred God Station. On the list of gods. When Jiang Ziya took the heaven to become a god, he was named the Four Waste Star Lords. Sun Wukong was transformed from a stubborn stone left by Nuwa, the empress, when she was refining stones to mend the sky. He became the Patriarch of Bodhi. Named Sun Wukong. Is Yuan Hong the previous life of Sun Wukong? Why is it that the more I read The Legend of the Gods, the more I feel like a prequel to Journey to the West?

I think you can say yes. Strictly speaking, it can be said that it is not. The following is my understanding: First of all, some people think that Wu Chengen's "Journey to the West" was written earlier than Xu Zhonglin's "The Romance of the Gods", and Yuan Hong in "The Romance of the Gods" is inextricably linked to Sun Wukong, so " "Yuan Hong" is suspected of plagiarizing "Sun Wukong". This view is wrong, because before these two authors, there were many folk myths about Monk Tang’s quest for scriptures and King Wu’s defeat of Zhou. The two authors’ work on these stories was more about sorting out rather than creating. . The order in which the two characters, Sun Wukong and Yuan Hong, appear in folk myths and stories cannot be verified, so there is no way to say who is the prototype of the two characters in the two books. Since we are discussing the relationship between Yuan Hong and Sun Wukong, we must obtain evidence from the two books "The Romance of the Gods" and "Journey to the West". In "The Romance of the Gods", Yuan Hong is a white ape who has attained enlightenment. Like Sun Wukong, he is a monkey. Later, Yuan Hong was sealed in the "Mountains and Rivers Sheji Map" by Empress Nuwa and Yang Jian, and sent the "Mountains and Rivers Sheji Map" to the Aolai Kingdom of Dongsheng China. It was also said that the mountains and rivers in the map would turn into entities. Only Yuan Hong The five-colored sacred stone incarnation can absorb the essence of heaven, earth, sun and moon to give birth to life. Everyone knows that Brother Monkey was transformed from a spiritual stone from the Aolai Kingdom of Dongsheng China by absorbing the essence of heaven, earth, sun and moon. Moreover, the year when Brother Monkey was born was probably the year when the five-colored sacred stone transformed by Yuan Hong was predicted to give birth to life (I calculated it before, but now I can’t remember it clearly. Friends who are interested can check the information and calculate it). Compare Yuan Hong’s ending. With this information about Sun Wukong's birth, it is not difficult to see that Yuan Hong is Sun Wukong's previous life. Why, strictly speaking, Yuan Hong is not Brother Monkey’s previous life? There is a passage from Tathagata Buddha in "Journey to the West" as follows: "There are five immortals in the Zhoutian, which are the gods, humans and ghosts of heaven and earth; there are five insects, which are scales, feathers and insects.

This guy is neither heaven nor earth, nor a god, nor a man, nor a ghost, nor a scale, nor hair, nor feathers, nor a scorpion. There are also four monkeys living in this world who do not fall into the ten categories. The first is the luminous stone monkey, which understands changes, knows the time of the sky, knows the location, and can move stars and change battles. The second is the red-breasted horse and monkey, who understands Yin and Yang, understands people and affairs, is good at going in and out, avoids death and prolongs life. The third one is the monkey, holding the sun and moon, shrinking thousands of mountains, distinguishing between good and bad, and playing with the universe. The fourth is the six-eared macaque, which is good at listening to sounds, able to understand, know the front and back, and everything is clear. These four monkeys do not fall into the ten categories, nor do they reach the two realms. ""Journey to the West" said that Brother Monkey is the "Lingming Stone Monkey", and "The Romance of the Gods" said that Yuan Hong is the "Three-armed Monkey". As we all know, there is a real and fake Monkey King in "Journey to the West". The fake monkey brother is the "six-eared macaque". The six-eared macaque and the monkey brother look exactly the same, and their abilities are exactly the same. In fact, it can be seen in the book that the six-eared macaque is an incarnation of Sun Wukong, just like a person with two identities. Personality, and what inspired Brother Monkey's "split personality" was his discord with Tang Seng. So the relationship is very clear here, "Lingming Stone Monkey", "Red Horse Monkey", "Thong-armed Monkey", "Liu Er Monkey". "Macaque" is actually the four-fold personality of Sun Wukong, and what Sun Wukong usually shows, and what we are familiar with, is the side of him as the "Ling Ming Stone Monkey". Therefore, from this perspective, Yuan Hong, the Viper Monkey, is just Part of Sun Wukong can also be said that he and the other three monkeys share the same body as "Sun Wukong". Therefore, strictly speaking, "Yuan Hong" and "Sun Wukong" cannot be equated. In addition, in "The Romance of the Gods". Yuan Hong knows the seventy-two transformations, and the later "Journey to the West" tells the story of the seventy-two transformations he learned from Patriarch Bodhi after Monkey was born. This is a point of connection and conflict, and there are more than one such point. This one. In the final analysis, the whole mythological system of China has been magnificent, changeable and intricate for five thousand years. If it can be explained in a self-explanatory manner, it is a story. Besides, "Journey to the West" and "The Romance of the Gods" will seep into it more or less intentionally or unintentionally. The author's own three views are related and conflicting, which are all normal. In comparison, Chinese mythology is not as clear as Western mythology, but it is more colorful than Western mythology, O(∩_∩)O~~. Is Yuan Hong the previous life of Sun Wukong?

There is a reason for saying this. In terms of skills, both of them practice the Eight-nine Mysterious Gong, and both use sticks.

But there is a note in Baidu Encyclopedia that says Yuan Hong has been made a god, so he cannot be reincarnated. However, Tang Monk was also a god before, and Zhu Bajie was also a god. Besides, reincarnation of gods is common in mythological novels, so the encyclopedia is just a joke. First, in Fengshen, Yuan Hong was decapitated by the Immortal-Destroying Flying Knife. As for where the head ended up, Yuan Hong’s whereabouts were not told. Then, in Journey to the West, it was said that the stone belonging to Sun Wukong had nine orifices and eight holes on it. The nine orifices and eight holes are exactly the head, and there is also a story in the stone that there are immortal cells inside. Because Sun Wukong and Zhu Bajie couldn't catch the nine-headed insect, when they were worried on the shore, they flew over in the sky. A group of people were the Seven Sages of Meishan. Sun Wukong said to Zhu Bajie, Bajie, go and ask Brother Erlang for help. Bajie said, why don't you go yourself? Sun Wukong said, Brother Erlang once surrendered to me, and I have no shame to ask him. I don’t know when Sun Wukong recognized an elder brother, but the Meishan brothers also called Sun Wukong the second brother. One thing you need to know is that Sun Wukong is the boss in Tang Monk’s team and the fourth among the Four Saints. I don’t know who this second brother is. Where did it come from, unless the Meishan brothers thought that Yang Jian was the boss and Sun Wukong was the second. Of course, Sun Wukong was also the former boss of the Seven Sages of Meishan. Of course, many people sneer at it and think that Journey to the West is an independent novel, so if you think it is, it is, and if you think it is not, it is not. Are the Meishan brothers of Erlangshen the Seven Meishan Monsters in the Investiture of Gods? The boss Yuan Hong is Sun Wukong, also known as Monkey

To tell you clearly no, neither Yuan Hong is Sun Wukong. The Seven Monsters of Meishan and the Six Brothers of Meishan are two completely different groups, but they are just in Meishan.

The Seven Monsters of Meishan were the opponents that Yang Jian encountered during the period of becoming a god. Later, after becoming a god, they became Yang Jian's subordinates, and they were all monsters with different forms. As for the six Meishan brothers, they were capable people and strangers they met in Meishan after Yang Jian became a saint. They later followed Yang Jian at Guanjiangkou and were Yang Jian's loyal followers and supporters!

First of all, the Seven Monsters of Meishan are characters in the Romance of the Gods, referring to Yuan Hong (ape), Chang Hao (long snake), Zhu Zizhen (wild boar), 4 Yang Xian (goat), 5 Dai Li (mountain dog), Jin Dasheng (bison), 7 Wulong (centipede).

Among them, the white ape is the strongest. The white ape has an uncle named Duozhiren, who is also a wise old ape. , the willow monster Shunfeng Ergaojue became an adulterer and took the hearts and minds of boys and girls. Later, Nuwa sent a Zhengdao to conquer Duozhi Zhenren. Bai Yuan saw his uncle being killed with his own eyes, and he felt hatred from it. This Zhengdao was Jiang Ziya. of past lives.

So when Jiang Ziya led his troops to Mengjin, White Ape changed his name to Yuan Hong, and went down the mountain with the other six monsters and the clairvoyant Shunfeng Er to take revenge. Later, except White Ape, they were all killed by Yang Jian. Regardless of the top or bottom, he fell into the Shanhe Sheji Tu and was captured. He was killed by Taoist Lu Ya with his Qibao flying knife.

The Seven Monsters of Meishan were originally monsters, and they all died at the hands of Yang Jian, so they had enmity with Yang Jian, and they were all named Star Lords after their deaths. The Four Waste Stars are Yuan Hong, the Sky Plague Star Jin Dasheng, the Desolation Star Dai Li, the Fu Duan Star Zhu Zizhen, the Anti-Yin Star Yang Xian, the Sword Anvil Star Chang Hao, and the Broken Star Wu Long.

The Six Meishan Brothers are the six gods who assist Erlang Xianjun (Erlang Shen). They are also called the Seven Saints of Meishan together with Erlang Shen. They are Taiwei Meishan: Kang Anyu, Taiwei Meishan: Zhang Boshi, Taiwei Meishan: Li Huanzhang, Taiwei Meishan: Yao Gonglin, General Meishan: Zhijian, General Meishan: Guo Shen.

When Yang Jian became a saint, his body became a god, but his soul was reincarnated as Yang Erlang, the son of Yang Tianyou and Princess Bailian, Zhang Sanjie. Later, he befriended six strange people in Meishan, namely Meishan The six brothers, plus Yang Erlang, are collectively known as the Seven Saints of Meishan, and they all belong to the level of loose immortals.

Extended information:

The Six Meishan Brothers first appeared in the novel "Journey to the West", but in fact there is very little description of the Six Meishan Brothers in "Journey to the West". They are simply called Mr. Erlang’s followers and are simply described and ignored.

The "Seven Monsters of Meishan" have a lot of roles in Fengshen. According to legend, when Nezha Santaizi was a child, he secretly ate the newly grown flat peaches, but when he was happy, he accidentally knocked down the seven flat peaches next to him. The seven flat peaches descended to earth and turned into seven animals: horse, fox, dog, rat, ape, eagle, and dragonfly.

Nezha Santaizi therefore descended to earth and defeated the monsters. Later, these monsters went to help the Shang Dynasty to stop the crusade of the Western Zhou army, and were finally subdued by Yang Jian. From here we seem to feel that there is no relationship at all between the Six Brothers of Meishan and the "Seven Monsters of Meishan". The two are not in the same system at all and are difficult to compare.