Which is better, Sun Ce or Taishi Ci?

a comparison of the armed forces between Sun Ce and Taishi Ci

at the end of the eastern Han dynasty, after the corruption of the imperial court, the rebellion of the officials against the people, and the yellow turban insurrectionary, heroes from all sides fought for territory. After n years of melee, the world has become one-third. Wei has eight masters, and Shu has five tigers. Only Sun Wu in Jiangdong, a famous general, can count the difference with one hand. Among them, Taishi Ci and Sun Ce are the best men in Jiangdong. Who is the better of these two Iliad generals? This paper will study this point in detail.

Sun Tai's Battle of Shenting:

The simplest, most direct and most authoritative way to evaluate the strength of two military commanders is a fair and direct battle. Fortunately, Sun Ce and Taishi Ci did have such a battle-the battle of the pavilion. Below, we will try to study this war again, and strive to analyze the level of force of the two in detail.

Let me quote the original (part) first:

...... Take Sun Ce straight, and plan to meet him with a gun. When two horses meet, they fight fifty times, regardless of victory or defeat. Cheng Pu and others secretly marveled: "What a Taishi Ci!" Seeing that there was no leakage in Sun Ce's marksmanship, Ci pretended to lose, led him into the mountains, and hurried back to his horse. When Sun Ce arrived, Taishi Ci exulted. Instead of going into the old road, he turned behind the mountain. When Ce arrived, Ci drank Ce and said, "If you are a gentleman, I will fight to the death with you!" Ce scolded him and said, "It's not a man to walk!" The two fight 3 times again. Compassionate thought to himself, "This fellow has thirteen followers, and I only have one, so I took him alive and let everyone take him away. Give me another ride and teach this fellow every time he doesn't find a place. " He cheated and ran away, shouting, "Don't come and drive me away!" " "But you don't go!" said Ce Drink. All the way to the land of Pingchuan. Cidou returned to the horse and fought again, and reached fifty. When Ce shot, Ci flashed and grabbed the gun. Ci also shot away, and Ce also flashed and grabbed the gun. The two dragged hard and both got off the horse, and the horse didn't know where to go. The two abandoned their guns and seized each other and fought.

Ci was thirty years old and Ce was twenty-one. The two men grabbed their shirts and tore them to pieces. However, Ce was quick-handed, and pulled the short halberd on Ci Bei's back and the pocket on Ce's head. The strategy is to stab Ci with a halberd, and Ci covers the frame with a pocket ...

The detailed analysis is as follows:

First, fight before the battle:

Taishi Ci has the courage, and he dares to go down the mountain to fight without asking whether Sun Ce is single or not and how many troops he has. Sun Ce was not only angry at Taishi Ci's remarks, but had a heart attack. In his view, this was a joke. There are many people who want to catch me, but I killed them all. See how I can beat you later. Taishi Ci had already expressed his grandiloquence before: Sun Ce should be captured alive. Take him alive, or take him alive. It is worth mentioning that Taishi Ci was thirty years old at that time, in the prime of life, and Sun Ce was twenty-one years old and still a teenager.

second, psychological factors:

since it is necessary to make a detailed analysis, it is of course necessary to expand it. Judging from the accompanying people of the two. Sun Ce's is a thirteen-riding warrior. Tai Shici is leading a poor general. From the strength point of view, Cheng Pu and Huang Gai are all worthy of the name among Jiangdong people. It is still a question whether the teenager brought by Taishi Ci can beat one of them (some people say that this teenager is an enemy of thirteen, and he beats Jiangdong Thirteen and vomits blood, even sweating wildly); From the perspective of deterrence, Guan Yunchang, the warrior, was still afraid of Cao Cao's people. Although he saw that they were unarmed, he still dared not dismount and be clothed. And Jiangdong Thirteen Riders headed by Cheng Pu must be armed with a lance and a belt bow and arrow. Judging from the fact that Taishi Ci led Sun Ce to leave later, he still had great scruples about riding 13th. Sun Ce doesn't care about the teenager at all: "I am the only one. You two come together and join me, I'm not afraid of you! If I'm afraid of you, it's not Sun Bofu! " , you two go together. Some people say, didn't Taishi Ci also say, "I'm not afraid if everyone comes!" . Hehe, this is an obvious boast. It's just that you don't lose face in front of everyone. Imagine if thirteen riders are killed together and replaced by someone who adds that and who can resist together. It is said that Taishi Ci can be 1 VS 14 and Sun Ce is captured alive. Do you believe it?

Third, the first battle was 5-5

Finally, Sun Ce and Taishi Ci went to war, and a dozen were 5-5. Generally speaking, if two military commanders hit 5-5, their strength should be clear. For example, when Xu Chu fought Xu Huang, Cao Cao said, "I can't bear to combine them with strength.". Huang Zhong fought Li Yan fifty times: "I was just about to capture Li Yan. Why did the strategist retreat?" . Xiahou fought Gao Shun, and fifty fought Gao Shun and fled around the array. So who is the dominant player in this war?

Attention, everyone, after Xu Chu fought Xu Huang, there was a saying by Cao Cao, and Huang Zhong also said that he was about to capture his opponent alive. There is also a saying in this war: "Cheng Pu and others are secretly amazed." It should be noted that Taishi Ci is the challenger and Sun Ce is the challenger. If the scene is completely tied, then the embarrassing thing is that it is natural to let out big words to capture Sun Ce's Taishi Ci alive. As long as Sun Ce can stall Taishi Ci and Taishi Ci, it's embarrassing. So psychologically, Sun Ce won't be in a hurry.

Some people think that Cheng Pu is amazing because Sun Ce has the upper hand, which I think is very inappropriate.

We can assume that if Sun Ce attacks again and again, it will prevail. So what are Cheng Pu and others surprised about? Surprised Taishi Ci to arrogance, defeat panic? Taishi Ci came quickly and lost quickly? This is obviously not very reasonable. It's good not to laugh at him: "Why did this fellow say that he wanted us all? It's unbearable, hahahaha." So it should be a more reasonable explanation that Taishi Ci has the upper hand than Sun Ce has the upper hand. There is another sentence in Robben: "What a Taishi Ci! ！” Obviously not used to praise Sun Ce.

Fourth, Sun Ce's marksmanship has no leakage.

Some people often use this phrase to prove that Taishi Ci lost in the battle of Shenting. Leakage is about equal to flaw. No leakage in marksmanship can be explained as no flaw in marksmanship. It can also be said that Sun Ce's marksmanship is very good, and Taishi Ci can't get in, because somebody else's marksmanship is flawless! It has nothing to do with getting the upper hand. You can refer to Changsha County Guan Huang for the knife. Guan Yu went back to the village and muttered to himself, "Veteran Huang Zhong deserves his reputation: fighting a lily is flawless." Is it understandable: Huang Zhong is brave and his knife is like a god, so I can't beat him? Combined with what Guan Pang said to Guan Yu after the knife, "Pound is really my opponent! "Visible guan yu did not regard Huang Zhongzhong as enough to match his opponent. I think that at least those who are used to observing whether their opponents' marksmanship is flawed will at least not be ugly. And it is more likely to be an attacker. Some people think: "Taishi Ci himself thinks that Sun Ce has no flaws. If this continues, the result can only develop in the direction that Taishi Ci is worried about. Since the result is not good, it is necessary to change tactics." I'd like to give you a friendly reminder: Taishi Ci is worried about being snatched back after Sun Ce is captured alive, not about not being able to capture Sun Ce alive.

5. Fight and go

Kindly thought to myself, "This fellow has thirteen followers, and I only have one, so I captured him alive and let everyone take him away. Give me another ride and teach this fellow every time he doesn't find a place. "

Let's talk about it. In the fierce battle, Taishi Ci even had the heart to consider what happened after Sun Ce, so he was a master. On the one hand, this remark is about riding thirteen times. On the other hand, Taishi Ci has never considered what to do if he is defeated, nor has he considered that he can't catch Sun Ce. From this sentence, we may understand that Sun Ce's 5-round attack did not bring pressure to Taishi Ci. Taishi Ci is sure of capturing Sun Ce alive. Combined with the following Sun Ce, Taishi Ci exulted. Why is Taishi Ci secretly happy? Because Sun Ce and Taishi Ci didn't get the upper hand in the battle, Taishi Ci didn't fear Sun Ce's marksmanship. Will Li Dian be happy to see Zhang Fei coming back to the horse? Will Yu Jin be happy to see Guan Yu coming back to the horse? As for why Sun Ce, as a military commander, still has a long way to go when he is in somebody else's territory. On the one hand, he can be understood as young and belligerent, on the other hand, he can also be understood as Sun Ce's good face, so he lost the battle and his face would be a little bit.

One more thing, as you all know, what is Taishi Ci famous for? The arrow! Then why doesn't he use it? Being driven too fast by Sun Ce? Don't you like it? He also repeatedly seduce Sun Ce chase? Oh, I see. If he wants to capture Sun Ce alive, it's not good to shoot him. He has the confidence to capture Sun Ce alive. Let's look at Sun Ce's arrow defense: a cold arrow was placed in the city, hitting Sun Ce's left leg right in the middle, turning over and falling off his horse. The generals gave first aid and pulled out the arrow, and treated it with golden sore medicine. Similarly, he was shot at the gate, because Taishi Ci was crouching (as stated in the book) and Guan Yu was not on guard (as stated in the book). In Sun Ce, it's all gone. Hey, that, what did you say? Backstabbing? Oh, my god, which one is not a stab in the back? Have you ever seen one with a bright arrow?

six, from the horse to the horse

two people have been fighting intermittently to 13, and generally they will be able to draw with Lily, so the difference in force is extremely small.

it's fifty-fifty again. When Ce shot, Ci flashed and grabbed the gun. Ci also shot away, and Ce also flashed and grabbed the gun. The two dragged hard and both got off the horse, and the horse didn't know where to go. The two abandoned their guns and seized each other and fought.

on the surface, it is a tie. You stab me, I clamp, I stab you, you clamp. But after careful analysis, we found that it was not the case at all. Sun Ce stabbed Taishi Ci first, but Ci flashed a gun. It gives the impression that it is very calm and there is no difficulty. Sun Ce's pike was stopped with one hand. Compared with many tigers and horses. Mao Benli throws the knife first and then clamps the gun, while Robben clamps the gun first and then throws the knife. Anyway, the knife was thrown away. Weapons are gone. And Taishi Ci not only didn't abandon the gun, but can attack with a gun! ! At this time of Sun Ce can be said to be unarmed, the only weapon is being strangled, and there is no possibility of killing each other. Anything but getting shot is getting shot. Up to now, Sun Ce has been unable to attack Taishi Ci, but this does not mean that Taishi Ci cannot attack Sun Ce. Because he still has a gun, but Sun Ce doesn't. There are two ways to defeat Sun Ce now. One is to abandon the gun and flee, thus completely losing the chance of victory, and possibly being shot to death by Taishi Ci. Second, seize the opportunity to clamp Taishi Ci's gun while he is shooting, so that we can return to the equilibrium. Sun Zening was invincible, and chose the second option. Fortunately, he finally tried his best to do it. Of course, it did not rule out that Taishi Ci had a little underestimation because of his victory. By this time, it is estimated that even Sun Ce, also took a cold sweat? Can you not be scared? Look at what Sun Ce said when he surrendered to Taishi Ci. Well, to get back to the point, the situation is seesawing again.

VII. Tearing off the horse

Two tiger generals will fight from the horse to the horse, from gun-fighting to boxing, from attacking and defending to attacking and attacking. The situation has changed. If Sun Ce's marksmanship was still leak-free, now it's all leak-free. The two abandoned their guns and seized each other and fought. See? They're all caught and torn. The scene is undoubtedly that you hold my hair, I hold your ear, you hold my collar, I hold your turban, you hold my pants, I hold your shirt, and then you make a left hook, I make a straight fist, you make a horizontal fist and I make a lower hook. "Ping" and "Ping", why don't you just call? Who's afraid of who? In this case, whoever has the strength is in charge. We don't know who has more strength, so we have to set Sun Ce's strength equal to Taishi Ci's. But let's not forget that Sun Ce is 21 and Taishi Ci is 3. People's strength is greater than 21 years old at the age of 3. So Sun Ce couldn't stand it any longer, and robbed Taishi Ci of the short halberd. This is not very technical. So Taishi Ci couldn't stand it any longer, and pulled out Sun Ce's head. This one is usually tied with a rope, so pulling it off is purely a drag. Then I fell into chaos, and I won't introduce it again. This has no effect on their assessment of force. After all, Sun Ce won't go to war with a short halberd. Taishi Ci wouldn't abandon his gun and take a helmet to fight. Want to die?

Eight or two challenges

You may be wondering, didn't these two guys just fight once? How can there be a second time? Then I can tell you for sure: there is. Taishi Ci challenged a horse, but Sun Ce didn't fight.

Taishi Ci went out to fight Sun Ce, and the plan came out. Cheng Pu said, "I don't need the master's labor, so I'll catch it myself." When Cheng Pu came out to the front, Taishi Ci said, "You are no match for me. You only teach Sun Ce to dismount!" Cheng Pu was furious and took Taishi Ci with a gun.

Taishi Ci drowned his horse and named Sun Ce to fight. Sun Ce is not the kind of die-hard personality, but if he is not afraid of others, he will not let Cheng Pu go. Cheng Pu didn't go directly without saying hello, but respectfully asked Sun Ce word by word. If Sun Ce flatly refuses, say, "Let me capture this person.". Cheng Pu don't dare to resist purport? It's a pity that Sun Ce was just making a show. When he heard that someone was out for himself, he immediately withdrew. This is a very humiliating thing for a military commander who is proud of being one-on-one It is estimated that Master Cheng Pu was black and blue when he saw the battle of Shenting, and his heart caught fire. This is not bad, you NND Taishi Ci, let me teach you a lesson! Taishi Ci, though not much better, is still being fat: "Go away and let Sun Ce come, you are no match for me". He didn't play Cheng Pu. How did he know Cheng Pu was no match for him? As the saying goes: persimmons pick up soft bullying. Taishi Ci decided that Sun Ce, WHY? Because they played against each other, Taishi Ci is sure to beat Sun Ce. And Sun Ce didn't do it. A big reason is that Taishi Ci's force put a lot of pressure on him, and Shenting World War I made him deeply afraid of Taishi Ci's force. So that for a long time later, he and Zhou Yu studied how to subdue this super macho man.

9. Do you still harm each other?

Finally, with Zhou Yu's help, Sun Ce captured Taishi Ci alive. When Zhang He surrendered, Cao Cao said, "Today, two generals are willing to join hands, such as I went to Yin and Han Xin went to Han." When Liu Bei surrendered, he also said, "I treat people with kindness." They're all bragging about themselves. Only Sun Ce smiled and said an unexpected sentence: "When the God Pavilion fights, if the public wins me, will it still hurt each other?" . It's really jaw-dropping. I think it's Taishi Ci in Shenting that makes Sun Ce concerned. In Sun Ce's mind, it is also believed that it is possible for Taishi Ci to defeat himself. And the possibility is very high. So Sun Ce often thought about it. I can't help but blurt it out. If Sun Ce doesn't believe in this possibility by pressing himself, then this sentence is meaningless and equal to nonsense. It is even more meaningless to talk nonsense in front of the Ministry. Taishi Ci truthfully replied, "I don't know. Maybe it will kill you. " To be honest, it's also true. Sun Ce laughed. Fortunately, you didn't catch him, so the monarch and his subjects laughed together.

Not bad, right?

Hehe

Have a nice day.