Is there a difference between Magotan and Subba?

Is there a difference between Magotan and Subba? Yes! Let's take a look.

1. Take Magotan and Supai TSI 330 DSG Comfort Edition as an example. Both cars are equipped with 1.8T turbocharged engine code-named EA888, matched with 7-speed dual-clutch gearbox and front drive. The official guide price of Magotan is higher than that of Speedmaster 1000 yuan, but Speedmaster has more keyless entry, electric sunroof and cruise control than Magotan. It is said that Express will sell better, but according to the fact, in 20 17, Magotan sold more than 2 1 10,000 vehicles, while Express only sold more than 40,000 vehicles, less than Magotan's14.

2. Why is the same platform, the same engine and the same gearbox cheaper? Why is there such a big gap between Speedy and Magotan? In the impression of many people, Skoda and SAIC Volkswagen seem to be places where the soup is not changed. Then, why is Skoda cheaper than SAIC Volkswagen, but its sales volume is not as good as SAIC Volkswagen? Take Skoda Express as an example. It is the first vehicle in China to use the MQB-B platform, much earlier than the new Passat B8. It uses the third-generation EA888 engine and the new 7-speed wet dual-clutch DQ380 Plus to bid farewell to all kinds of worries. From the perspective of a bystander, the reason is simple. Skoda is small, and the boat is easy to turn around. If there is any problem, it can be improved on the next Volkswagen model. Skoda has become a market experiment of Magotan, and it must be said that Volkswagen still hides Magotan's son.

3. Between Magotan and Skoda. The most important point is brand power. Skoda entered the China market 20 years later than SAIC Volkswagen, which made Volkswagen's influence fall behind in any case. Although it was changed from "Skoda" to "SAIC Skoda", it still removed the unpopular taste. It feels like an accessory of the public, and it can also be understood as a cheap public, but the price/performance ratio does not reflect the brand value of Skoda, and the situation is rather embarrassing.

4. To put it bluntly, it is actually the problem of brand premium, that is, the problem of added value, that is, Volkswagen's brand is louder than Skoda and more valuable than Skoda, that's all. Don't consumers know that the public premium is serious? Actually, everyone knows that. Although Skoda is nominally divorced from the public, it still feels that it lives under the public, so it is necessary to get out of this "big tree" as soon as possible and make its brand personality more distinct. This is the way to survive.

Although Magotan and Suba belong to the same platform model of Volkswagen. And the three parts are exactly the same. EA888 engine, front McPherson rear multi-link suspension and 7-speed wet dual-clutch gearbox are all universal.

But their popularity in China is quite different. In 2020, Magotan ranked third in the sales list of medium-sized cars with sales of 65,438+064,685 vehicles. Skoda Express only bought 8,328 vehicles in 2020, which is not as good as the monthly sales of Magotan.

It's also a deluxe edition, 20 thousand cheaper. 2020 Magotan 330TSI DSG luxury model, manufacturer's guide price: 233,900 yuan, terminal discount of 30,000 yuan. The dealer sells for 203,900 yuan.

20 19 quick exchange TSI330 DSG deluxe edition, manufacturer's guide price: 2065 438+0.9 million yuan, terminal discount10.89 million yuan. Dealer's quotation 183000 yuan.

The price difference between the two luxury cars is 20 thousand. From the perspective of safety configuration, Magotan has more rear airbags. The speed dispatch is more of a side warning and reversing parallel assistance.

However, in terms of creating high-end interiors, Magotan not only uses better materials, but also can open panoramic skylights, which is more suitable for Chinese people's hobbies, while the single skylight on Speedpost is slightly shabby. In addition, Magotan is equipped with independent air conditioning in the rear, while Speedpost only provides the rear air outlet.

The interior space of the two cars is abundant, and the quick delivery and loading capacity is stronger. In terms of body size, Suba is 4869* 1865* 1489mm, and the wheelbase is 2841mm.. Magotan is 4865 *1832 *1471mm, and the wheelbase is 2871mm.

Among them, Suba has a larger length, width and height, and Magotan has an advantage in wheelbase. Magotan's wheelbase of 28,765,438+0 mm ensures ample rear space. Magotan's back row vertical space has no rivals at the same level, and it is easy to cross legs in the back row.

However, the lateral space velocity faction is more dominant. The disadvantage of the similar space between the two cars is that the middle of the back row is large, which has a certain impact on the ride comfort.

Because the speed school is a five-door and five-seat hatchback structure. In terms of trunk loading capacity, Express has the advantage of hatchback design, which is invincible at the same level in terms of space and practicality. Even comparable to the load of an SUV.

After the rear seats are adjusted, the basic volume of the luggage compartment of 570L can achieve the maximum storage space of 1 680L, which is impossible in the traditional sedan. Come and move, you can do it. Details such as small hooks have long been practical.

Summary:

Although the engines and gearboxes of the two cars are the same, the driving quality is still relatively close. But it can't be simply understood that the speed faction is the Magotan for changing the standard.

First of all, because of the different pricing of the two cars, Magotan is more advanced in interior decoration, workmanship and materials. In addition, from the perspective of the second-hand car market, the gap in the value-added ratio between a Magotan and a fast-moving second-hand car in the past few years is still very obvious.

The most important point is that although the sales volume of express delivery is not high, there are still many quality complaints. For example, the interior odor is serious, the gearbox is frustrated, the engine burns oil, and the gearbox is shoddy.

This shows that although the car price is cheap, Speedy has made a simple collocation in some places that consumers can't see.

So even if the express train is cheaper, a large part of consumers will choose Magotan, and 65,438+0,200 yuan is more expensive.

The biggest difference is that Volkswagen itself has different market positioning for the two cars.

In short, Volkswagen's own positioning for Skoda is "market segmentation". The original idea was to use Skoda as a "low-priced mass" to directly compete with Japanese and Korean departments.

Even if there is direct competition, how to improve competitiveness?

First, cost performance. Under the same platform, Skoda can get at least 95% technical support, but the price reaches 90%.

Why do you say that? It's simple. If it is not to improve Skoda's competitiveness, Volkswagen can use its own car to eat the big head first, and then continue to eat the small head, instead of throwing technology at Skoda to create gimmicks.

After the above, we should understand that Skoda is a "cheap version" of Volkswagen and have a general understanding of the price difference between the two. Then we will continue to talk about the specific gap.

Magotan and Speedmaster are the highest match, according to the manufacturer's guide price, nearly 70,000.

This part of the price difference is in the following aspects.

As a product of the same platform, there is little difference among the three components, but the auxiliary configuration of Magotan on the top is more than that of Speedway, including full LCD instrument panel, HUD head-up digital display, panoramic sunroof, panoramic camera and so on. Although the cost of these configurations is very low in the eyes of the industry, as the original configuration, they are value-added at a premium. What about the coke in the canteen and the coke in Hilton?

In addition to configuration differences and price differences, the difference in details and technology is also an aspect. In terms of fineness, a finer process requires higher manufacturing technology and materials, and there is naturally a gap between price and cost.

Give a simple example, such as the shift lever of Speedpost and Magotan:

(Above, Magotan)

(as shown above)

Judging from the shift lever, the picture gap is so big, let alone the real thing. If you can't see clearly, you can go to the 4S shop to observe for yourself.

Brand premium is actually the most critical point. Is there a gap between Speedy and Magotan? Yes, but is this gap worth 70 thousand? I don't know. maybe 12 thousand? But how did you finally get the difference of 6.7 1 10,000?

First, there is a gap in essence and there is premium capital. Then tell a joke. When I calculate the cost of Magotan, well, considering the cost, this car can cost 10,000 yuan, but the sales boss learned through game theory that the cost profit is 10,000 yuan. What about my Volkswagen logo profit? Money can't be circled by cost, but by market demand!

Then re-price, the price is too high, although the profit is high, but fewer people buy, the price is low, more people buy, but the total profit may be less. Finally, after careful calculation, I found that your profit is 6.7 1 10,000.

In short, poor basic configuration and poor manufacturing technology are premium capital. The positioning effect of the two brands, through a series of pricing studies, makes the price of Volkswagen Magotan much higher than that of Skoda Express.

Magotan and Speedy School-True and False Monkey King

The real monkey king and the fake monkey king have the same skills, even a dime, but the names are different, and the results are quite different.

Now Magotan and Subba are almost the same, but the results are quite different.

1, two or three pieces:

Exactly the same, but there is almost no difference in driving quality.

2. Interior style:

Both have a strong and simple style, but the design of the new Magotan is more full, and the horizontal air outlet and wood grain match to make the interior of the vehicle full. Skoda Express interior style is more like Passat, and Magotan is leading in design.

Step 3 be practical

Magotan has a large space in the back row, which is also the first space for mid-level cars. Its trunk is very big, so it can be delivered quickly, and it is also useful to pull cabbage in winter. There must be an egg for other purposes, so Magotan won completely.

4. Appearance:

In appearance, the new Magotan is very atmospheric, sporty, suitable for IKEA, and its quick design is also very atmospheric. However, the rising window line at the rear window position makes the whole vehicle not dull, but adds more fresh elements. Radish and cabbage, each to his own liking.

Both are essentially the same car, but the exterior and interior are different. Magotan sells well but the price is high. Instead, it highlights the fast cost performance. So, which one to choose depends on your hobby.

Of course there is a difference.

First of all, Skoda has a long history, but Skoda has a hundred years of history.

In the past, Skoda in Europe was a noble car, and only dignitaries could afford it.

The Czech president uses the 00 1 express train as the presidential car.

Don't mention the history of the masses.

This old speedster was particularly powerful at that time, and its popularity was more than twice that of the public.

Thanks to the reform, at that time, only Germans who dared to come to China automobile market were willing to make joint ventures and adopt advanced technology. When other car manufacturers found that the China market had great potential. There is a feeling that the public has face in the street. 80-early 90' s. There is a Volkswagen that only 10,000 families can do. We should not only commend it in the city, but also publicize it in the newspaper. At that time, the local tyrant, with a mobile phone in his left hand, patted Santana's key on the table with his right hand. You can prove your investment strength.

Now Volkswagen's brand premium is higher than Skoda's. Skoda, as a second-line brand, focuses on home use and cost performance.

Magotan focuses on youth, sports and business, while Speedy focuses on home practicality. Passat, a commercial vehicle and an official vehicle, has done more.

This trunk is delivered quickly, and it's worth it if the opponent can't catch up. It is nothing for northern families to buy cabbage in winter. There is no pressure to buy rice flour oil for the elderly on holidays. Not to mention the interior space, of course, the speed school focuses on some household configurations. Such as umbrella slots and lighting, are all very real.

With Magotan, the business atmosphere and sports atmosphere are strong, which can be seen from the interior.

Summary of hazelnut name: the quick payment discount is not small, and the value preservation rate is definitely not as good as that of Magotan. But it is said that it can enjoy higher configuration at a cheaper price. For the daddy who pursues space, or the person who usually needs to move things. Very good. Personally, I think hazel likes to send more speed.

Magotan

Length, width and height (mm)4866 1832 1464. Wheelbase (mm)287 1. Guide price: 18.99-3 1.69 million.

Magotan is a B-class car owned by FAW-Volkswagen. Young appearance, low front movement, smooth and beautiful lines, full body, luxurious and elegant interior, durable atmosphere, large space and full power in B-class cars.

Supai

Length, width and height (mm) 486118651489. Wheelbase (mm)284 1. Guide price: 65,438+06.98-249,800.

Subba is a B-class car owned by SAIC Volkswagen Skoda. After the change, it is very young and sharp, very sporty and has a lot of space. The interior is also very popular. It is the consistent style of the public and the same motivation as Magotan Passat. The trunk adopts hatchback design, which is very practical.

Magotan and Speedmaster both adopt Volkswagen's latest B8 platform. The difference is that Speedpost is Skoda logo, Magotan is Volkswagen logo, and Volkswagen is more advanced in the hearts of Chinese people, with higher premium capacity and higher rate of preservation than Skoda. Skoda's workmanship and materials may be worse than that of the public, but the difference is not big, but Speedy is more cost-effective than Magotan, so they are all similar.

Choosing a car is based on your own preferences. After all, driving by yourself is the most important thing.

As unprofessional, if there are any mistakes, please forgive and correct them. Thank you.

Hello, everyone, I am very happy to see flowers and talk about cars with you.

If you choose to buy a mid-level car with a joint venture brand, then the Magotan of FAW-Volkswagen must be a car you can't get around. FAW-Volkswagen Magotan is the standard model of joint venture brand mid-level car. Its appearance is steady and high-end luxury. Moreover, the brand influence is relatively large, the workmanship is exquisite, the configuration is high-end, and the used car value preservation rate is still relatively high. Whether it is home or business reception, it is a very good choice!

However, if you think that the price of FAW Magotan is more expensive, then Skoda Express, a sub-brand also from Volkswagen, is a more cost-effective model. Like Volkswagen Magotan, Skoda Express also comes from Volkswagen's mid-level car platform-MQB-B platform. Skoda Express and FAW-Volkswagen Magotan have the same chassis, power and configuration. Subject to brand positioning, the price of Skoda Express is lower than that of FAW-Volkswagen Magotan.

At present, the price difference between Skoda Speedpost and FAW-Volkswagen Magotan with the same configuration is about 40,000-50,000 yuan. You can buy nearly 95% of FAW-Volkswagen Magotan at a price of 40,000 to 50,000 yuan lower! Same development platform, same power and configuration! Chassis training is basically the same! Just subject to the problem of brand positioning, it may be slightly inferior to FAW-Volkswagen Magotan in terms of materials for work.

On the whole, compared with FAW-Volkswagen Magotan, Skoda Express has less materials for work, heavier plastic feeling in the interior, and the added value of the brand! Because the influence of Skoda brand is not as good as that of Volkswagen brand, Speedy and FAW-Volkswagen Magotan cannot be compared in sales volume. In terms of second-hand car hedging rate, the gap between Express Express and FAW-Volkswagen Magotan is also relatively large. But dig deep, the two models are essentially different, really not big.

As far as the roof fittings are concerned, some comfort configurations are poor, such as DCC adaptive suspension, panoramic sunroof, car interior that looks more advanced and feels softer, driver's seat massage, four-door keyless entry of the whole car, LCD instrument panel, led headlights, 18 car with rear sunshade, panoramic image, more advanced independent air conditioner in the rear row, aviation headrest, 4-way adjustable headrest, rear privacy glass, adjustable. Finally, it depends on the budget and your needs. More money, faster money, more face, and low-speed regulation. I personally like the design of sagitar hatchback trunk, but the luxury that Magotan can bring can't be compared with the advanced sense of speed.

Magotan and Skoda are B-class cars under the Volkswagen Group, both from Volkswagen's MQB platform, and both use Volkswagen's EA888 engine and seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox. However, due to brand awareness and other reasons, the sales volume of Magotan is much higher than that of Skoda Express. The price of Skoda Express is lower than that of Magotan.

The three parts of the two are the same, and the difference mainly comes from the appearance and configuration and the price.

Skoda Express looks sharper and Magotan is more commercial.

The interior is a typical popular style, but the interior atmosphere of Magotan is more luxurious, and the top model has an LCD instrument panel. Skoda's relatively mediocre, especially Skoda's dashboard color matching attracted many people's spit.

The Skoda Express configuration at the same price is much higher than Magotan, so Skoda Express is more cost-effective.

Express has richer configuration and higher cost performance, such as the unique two-stage trunk opening and side window sunshade, which is very high-grade. Skoda Express is the top model of Skoda series, which is expected to be made in China next year. With the help of Volkswagen's advantages, from Volkswagen PQ46 platform, the chassis wheelbase reaches 276 1mm, the body length reaches 4838mm, and the width reaches1.783 mm. There are three engines listed abroad, the lowest 1.4 TFSI configuration, the highest 3.6V6, and the lowest price is more than 200,000 yuan. Therefore, if the domestic production does not shrink, the configuration and price of Skoda Express will be above Magotan.