How to understand the ending of "Joker"?

The day before yesterday, through the resources shared by netizens, I watched this movie that everyone calls a masterpiece at home.

If the score is 100 points, I would give it 85 points! Why? I learned before that this version of the Joker is independent of the DC universe, which means it is different from all the Jokers we have seen before. It is an independent story! What is different from the clown in the American TV series "Gotham" is that the clown in Gotham has been a psychopath since childhood. This clown turned out to be a gentle, even cowardly person, but he also had a dream of comedy! The double blow of life and appearance finally made him go dark in the subway and kill those three gangsters! In addition, his mother told him that Thomas Wayne was his father, which made him, who had not had a father's love since childhood, even more psychologically fragile!

Before seeing the ending, I always had a question: Are he and Batman Bruce Wayne brothers? But in the end, it was still unclear. Was it his mother who was lying? Or was Arkham Asylum controlled by Thomas Wayne, thus forging a series of events?

In the end, the clown shot and killed the host he had always admired but used him as a joke during the live broadcast. On the way to being taken away by the police, he was saved by his fanatical fans! It makes people feel that everyone is a clown, forced by capital, so they can't bear it and embark on the road of resistance!

The above is my personal understanding

Talk about my personal feelings

Arthur, a person driven crazy by the indifferent real world of society, he has determined to Being a comedian brings joy to people. However, he suffers from mental illness and it is difficult to control his illness. He often laughs for no reason. He has duplicitous colleagues, mean bosses, a society without kindness, and his first consecutive murder. After three people, Arthur actually felt a sense of relief

His mother's medical history became the last straw for him. It turned out that he had been abused by his adoptive mother since he was a child, which led to mental problems< /p>

Murray, who has always been regarded as his idol, is also laughing at his performance...

In the end, Arthur despairs of this real society, steps into the darkness, and kills the person who framed him A colleague, he killed his adoptive mother who had abused him since he was a child, and killed the person he had always regarded as his idol

In fact, Arthur has always been a relatively normal person, filial to his mother, and a comedian. Bringing joy, as long as there is a little kindness around him, Arthur will not fall into despair. It is precisely because this real world is full of ridicule and malice, Arthur finally despaired, stopped taking the medicine, and after killing several people, he felt I am completely free from all kinds of constraints

A joker is just a joke in the eyes of others

The movie "Joker" did well at the box office and became the highest-grossing movie in North American history in October. This has triggered a lot of plot discussions, as well as thoughts on the open ending. Which of the stories told by "Joker" Arthur are true? What are the plots of fantasy? Or are they all stories made up by his imagination? From beginning to end, did Arthur ever leave Arkham Asylum? What does his last smile mean? And this "Joker" movie is really the origin of the Joker we know from DC Comics?

Why does the time "11:11" appear three times in the "Joker" movie?

Some foreign fans discovered that at the beginning of the movie, when Arthur appeared in the social worker psychologist's office, the time was displayed as "11:11", and then Arthur banged his head against the door of the living room in the hospital. It happened that the time was also displayed as "11:11". 11:11." Is it possible that Arthur has not stepped out of this time and everything is just a fantasy he is remembering?

Let’s return to the ending of “Joker”. Arthur laughed in the hospital and said, “You don’t understand this joke.” Are these all stories he made up? Did he really never leave Arkham Asylum from beginning to end? If these doubts are raised, Mu Qi feels that the movie does leave some ambiguities that can be discussed, because some details do not clearly indicate Arthur's actions.

For example, was Arthur really imprisoned in Arkham Asylum after the riot?

However, after referring to some data and reports of interviews with the director, Mu Qi still maintained her original idea after watching the movie, that is, in addition to Murray inviting Arthur to the stage and a plot to encourage him, There is also his interaction with the neighbor's single mother Sophie. These scenes are outside of fantasy. He killed people on the subway, killed his adoptive mother, killed Murray on the talk show, and finally caused the street riots, all are real.

Then "11:11" is definitely not a coincidence, right? Another time "11:11" appeared was when Arthur was fired by his agent. He broke the clock and it still showed this time. Mu Qi felt that the three occurrences of "11:11" should be an Easter egg hinting at the ghost card "Joker" in poker. In addition, Arthur fired 11 shots in the play, so the meaning of the number "11" should have nothing to do with the time of recall, but is an easter egg pointing to the ghost card "Joker".

Isn’t it true that the story Arthur tells from beginning to end is all fabricated?

Even when Mu Qi rewatched the movie, she didn’t pay attention to the suspicious details at this time, because she was all carried away by the emotion of Joaquin Phoenix playing “Joker” Arthur Fleck, but that’s because the movie is “Joker” Arthur Fleck’s narrative point of view, so if some fans feel that the ending leaves room for imagination, or even raise the above doubts, they cannot say that their inference is wrong.

Since this story is narrated by "Joker" Arthur Fleck, there is no other person's point of view, and the narrator himself is a delusional man with mental illness. He is not a reliable narrator of the story, so How much of the story he told was true? How much is false? Let the audience decide for themselves.

In an interview after the release, Joaquin Phoenix mentioned his views on the ending. He believed that the movie did not tell everything to death. Such an open ending left it to the audience to decide for themselves what was true? Which ones are fake? Also because of the ending setting of the movie, he thinks it is a very interesting approach because the audience can participate in the interaction.

From director Todd Phillips’ explanation of “The Clown’s Laugh”, we can find out whether the story is true or false

Director Todd Phillips mentioned the arrangement of the ending of his movie in an interview after the release. Said that the scene of Arthur laughing in the hospital was meaningful. In the play, he has many different kinds of laughter, some of which are caused by uncontrollable laughter when he is in pain, and some of which are the laughter that he tries to pretend to be an ordinary person, but the last laugh he made in Arkham Asylum is the one in the movie The only real laugh. That laugh came from his genuine laughter. Because after experiencing all these pains and being discriminated against, he embarked on the path of a villain. After seeing through that his life was a ridiculous comedy, he no longer had to cater to others, so he could laugh freely.

From the director’s explanation of “laughing”, Mu Qi can roughly infer that Arthur’s pain in the story is real. He doesn’t know how to be himself (because he is a tragic figure), just like the character in his play. The line in "The most painful thing about mental illness is that others always want them to pretend that they are normal." And when the "Joker" became the revolutionary symbol of Gotham City, he found himself in the "Joker" identity. He hoped to be noticed and was proud to be the representative of the "anti-hero". Therefore, the journey in the play subverted the entire Gotham City. Tam City is real.

Is Arthur not the real Joker, or did he inspire the Joker later named "Jack"?

The "Joker" movie includes Easter eggs from DC comics, the Bruce family and Batman stories, so people can't help but be more curious. Is the "Joker" story really a clown? Because there is an age gap between the clown "Jack" and Arthur in the comics and his opponent Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne was only eight years old in the "Joker" story, and there is a big age gap with Arthur. Then the grown-up Bat Hero, is the clown you are facing still Arthur?

But regarding this issue, in fact, when the director was filming the independent movie "Joker", he had already left the time and space of the DC universe, which is equivalent to telling another "Joker" story that we don't know!

The ending of the Joker arouses a lot of thoughts, just like a game. It reminds me a lot of the plot of Mr. Shu played by Wang Baoqiang, and I think he imagined it himself. The riot at the end has no political or social significance. It is just a vent for game players' emotions and does not bring reform or hope. After the players became red-eyed, they returned to reality and were still gentle and kind.

Different from other games, the movie gives the protagonist of the game more background, making his behavior more "rationalized". Bonus points are Phoenix's performance as an exquisitely mentally ill character. In comparison, I prefer the kind of complete villain, who is so bad that there is no reason. He is not challenging the order or resisting anything, he is just born like this.

In the end, the clown became like a suffering and oppressed proletarian, a person who was insulted and damaged. If in Dostoyevsky, the poor endure everything and the rich enjoy happiness, this is a fact that has not changed for thousands of years and is an extremely profound reality. The Joker is so dramatic, it’s as exciting as Story of Yanxi Palace. If someone hits me, I’ll slap her in the face; if someone humiliates me with words, I’ll blow his head off with a gun! That's all. The clown is a mental patient, so he resisted, triggering violence and causing a carnival that had nothing to do with his original intention. In the end, no one cared about or understood him from beginning to end.

Hello everyone! I am Ai Jiang movie! Everyone has different opinions when watching a movie. I will simply tell you my opinion. If you don’t like it, don’t criticize it!

Watching the whole movie gave me a very, very depressing feeling. From a line in the movie, "I hope my death is more meaningful than my life," I feel that the fate of the clown is really sad. There is a devil and an angel living in a person's heart. The angel represents justice and the devil represents evil. When a person's mind fights, their war begins. Others laugh at me for being crazy, but I laugh at others because they can’t see through it. This sentence can be applied to clowns. Before the clown put on the mask, he was a loser who was often laughed at. After putting on the mask, he found his true self. This may be a negative movie teaching material, but it brings real examples of the bottom of society. It is forced by people and things.

From the first scene, I saw Arthur wearing makeup and opening the corners of his mouth with tears in his eyes. When it comes to work, social assistance, and family misfortune, these fulcrums that have been supporting him on the edge of the cliff collapse one by one, and he finally releases the other side. After the first murder, he went from panicked escape to calm acceptance. His dance in the toilet was unexpectedly beautiful. In this crazy world, with just a little push, we could all turn into clowns.

The presentation of the film is full of artistic sense. Joaquin Phoenix's performance, makeup, costumes, framing, and image processing are like old photos full of texture, making people completely immersed in the emotions of the story. middle. Joaquin Phoenix's solo dance in the bathroom and long staircase is full of satisfaction and sadness.

"I hope my death is more meaningful than my life." The clown is right. His life is a comedy, but comedy often contains tragedy.

The "Joker" eventually becomes a "bad guy" and becomes a "reactionary" who destroys society. Judging from the storyline told in the film, this is inevitable, if the "Joker" does not commit suicide.

When a person at the bottom of society experiences all kinds of insults, all kinds of helplessness, and loses trust in society, his heart will become dark and he will become hostile to the people around him, unless A "God"-like figure appears, otherwise no one can save him. There is no such person around the "Joker", so he will eventually reach the "point of no return".

Recently, there is an American high-scoring movie that is very popular. It has a high score of 9.1. The box office has exceeded 900 million US dollars and it has become the comic book movie with the highest return on investment in film history. It is a masterpiece. DC Comics' origin movie "Joker"

First of all, this movie was really well shot and was well received by fans. The comic-book feature film also set many new records.

This film tells the story of Arthur, a mentally ill man. He was bullied by many people, which led to his explosion and also started his own path of revenge. Let those who have bullied him die one by one, so that Arthur can be released. Arthur is so crazy that even if he is taken to a mental hospital, he will not let go of his psychiatrist and kill him. It was understandable that he was forced to resist, but he had always longed to be treated gently.

In fact, this movie tells us that fighting violence with violence cannot solve the problem. It cannot be discussed outside the prescribed situation. This is also a complex issue. Now that there are more and more people with grievances, there will be more No matter how you look at it, people like Arthur are in an endless cycle.

No matter how it ends, this is just a movie!

And it is also a great art film

Elegant steps: represents the clown’s calmness and madness

Passing bloody footprints: represents Death and fear caused by the present and the future

Walking towards the sun: the darkness approaches the light step by step, and the shadow behind laughs and watches.

Where did you watch this movie?

If you can’t see it in the cinema

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Who is this clown< /p>

There is no moment when society is more chaotic than at this time, and there is no moment when the clown is more clear than at this time