Why did you leave Huawei?

Our school has been recruiting Huawei for 5 years, worked as a project leader at Huawei for half a year, and was nominated for the LTE President Award. When I was doing my best, I left Huawei and went to a foreign company. Just came out half a year ago.

Reasons for quitting:

1. I wanted to leave my job half a year after joining. I was so stressed that I suffered from insomnia. I persisted for 5 years. I didn’t expect that, When I was the project leader, a new employee with a master's degree from Zhejiang University discovered that he had lost his hair. So I don’t recognize Huawei’s culture in my heart, so why do I stay because the bonus is so high? It’s a very real question, and it’s the same for many college students from poor families.

2. After 5 years in the department, I have learned nothing. As for promotion, the department is very stable, and there is no chance to the naked eye. Huawei has a screw culture, with a very fine division of labor among departments. If you change departments, all your experience may be useless, but the rise and fall of the industry takes time. Our department has been popular for so many years, but it has begun to decline.

3. I have seen too many cruel things: There was a 10-year-old employee who was eliminated by the department and had worked hard. There is also a technical backbone who has strong technical ability, but does not like to argue. Because he was promoted to a level, he could not compete for a management position and was eliminated. These are people who are skilled and work hard. The last one, the locomotive of our department, was there when the department was established. He was A almost every year and had a very high level. But in the end, he was sent overseas. If he didn't go, he would have to leave. He was thirty-five years old. When I went overseas, I didn’t know how many years he could last. The funniest thing was that a technical backbone was doing marketing.

4. The body consumes too much. It takes one year on the inside and two years on the outside. There are many people with gray hair inside and baldness. I have even seen a girl with gray hair because she stayed in the company for a long time. . I'm a bit of a nervous wreck myself.

5. There is no time to study. The programmer industry is developing too fast. If you don’t study, you will be eliminated soon. Huawei is so busy that there is no time to study.

6. I went to a foreign company not to take care of myself, but to recuperate and recharge my batteries.

He joined Huawei (located in Shanghai) in 2006 and left Huawei (located in Warsaw, Poland) in 2015. He was 39 years old when he left.

Anyone who is familiar with Huawei knows that the longer you work, the higher your income. I have worked at Huawei for 9 years and was assigned overseas. Generally speaking, my income is good. Resigning means cutting off a generous income and facing a life of wandering.

There are many reasons for leaving, summarized as follows

After leaving for so many years, I still want to thank Huawei and feel deeply honored to have been a member of it!

Tell me a story about my friend.

After graduation, he entered a technical position at Huawei. The pressure was huge, he worked overtime every day, and the pressure of grading was huge. When he first joined, he actually gave up. But there was no other way, so I gritted my teeth and started doing it.

Because of their project, they need to work overtime every day, probably until around 11pm, 6 days a week. Of course they are all subsidized.

It is true that we are tired, and it is true that we collapsed. We were told several times that we could no longer hold on, and it is also true that we have gained a lot.

The reasons why most schools recruit students to join Huawei are: one is the excellent platform training ability, the other is the good salary, and the other is the golden halo as a springboard for the future.

So after working hard at Huawei for three years, he jumped to another company.

Employees have devoted their youth and sweat, and Huawei has given us a platform and springboard. In fact, everyone gets what they need. Not only for high-profile companies like Huawei, the normal flow of personnel such as resignation happens in every company every day.

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I am a Huawei employee for the second time. I jumped from a Fortune 500 company in the United States to Huawei for the first time. I couldn’t adapt to it. I resigned after a year. The main reason is that Huawei does not allow you to work at home. We need to get everyone to Shenzhen. After leaving Huawei, I returned to another Fortune 500 company in the United States. The salary level was greatly increased. However, I found that although the life in a foreign company was very balanced, I found that everyone was just a screw and had no chance to do anything big. The sense of accomplishment is incomparable to Huawei. So I later chose to return to Huawei. As long as you work hard, you will be rewarded enough.

But it is really difficult for Huawei to enter the palace for the second time (if you can't prove that you are better off after leaving Huawei than at Huawei, you have no chance to go back). I waited for three years before I switched from an independent consultant to an independent consultant. Regular employees of Huawei. Therefore, I advise all brothers who are preparing to resign from Huawei to think carefully.

As a Huawei employee, let me talk about the reasons why my colleagues around me leave based on my own experience.

Although Huawei has high salaries, people still come in and people leave every year. Based on a comprehensive analysis, the following categories of people leave.

01 Internal Elimination

The annual performance within the company is 5% to 10% C. Although C is not a forced elimination, it basically means that the salary increase and allotment of shares in the next three years will be 0. If you get a C, you will basically leave.

It seems that the proportion of C's is high. In fact, if there are any of the following reasons for leaving the company, priority will be given to their performance.

02 Pursuing stability

Some colleagues have worked hard at Huawei for several years. For the sake of follow-up career planning and stable work, they will choose to work in state-owned enterprises, civil servants and other stable jobs.

There are generally two aspects that lead to this choice. First, the intensity of working overtime is high, which makes one feel tired. The second is to plan ahead when facing a sense of mid-life crisis.

03 If the work is not satisfactory, change the company

Sometimes, the working style is inconsistent with the team leader, dissatisfied with the current working atmosphere, etc., which will make outstanding people willing to leave. In Ma Yun's words, my heart is tired.

If you break it down further, there are many situations, such as not agreeing with the corporate culture, talents not being used properly, not adapting to the work process, etc.

In fact, for this situation, Most people will give priority to internal transfers, and changing departments may be an option. Huawei's internal talent market mobilization mechanism is very complete. As long as the performance is not bad, it is easy to find a new department.

04 Higher Choice

People go to higher places, and water flows to lower places. If you find a more ideal company with higher wages, you will also choose to leave. I don't encounter this situation often, but it does.

I have heard of people from other departments going out to start their own businesses and going to Alibaba and Tencent to get a very high rating. Bless them.

As for myself, I haven’t found a reason for myself to leave.

Huawei is a besieged city. People outside are trying their best to squeeze in for high income, while people inside are tortured every minute and are considering leaving.

Ren Zhengfei gives you so many dividend shares, do you think anyone can take it?

Endless processes and endless reports

Endless processes and endless reports are actually a common problem in large companies. Process is a double-edged sword. It facilitates management, but greatly reduces work efficiency. For example, if you want to add a new resource (message number, command word, etc.) to the code, a programmer from other companies can do it in just one minute; at Huawei, you first prepare the application materials, then submit the application, and then wait for countless people Approval, and then wait for the resources to be released. After this set, three or four days have passed... If you find that the application is not enough or is wrong and needs to be supplemented, I'm sorry, please try again.

This is just one of the small processes, there are countless other processes. It is these processes that are killing the energy of programmers all the time.

Life? Doesn't exist.

There is a saying that sums it up well. At Huawei, you spend twice your time in exchange for 1.6 times your income. And many people often invest far more than double. Either I am working overtime or I am on my way to work overtime. Even on vacation, no matter what time period, even in the middle of the night or early in the morning, I will often receive calls from the company. Want your own life? Haha, it doesn't exist. “Be patient, be ruthless, and get out”, this is the three-character mantra that Huawei believes in internally. Either be ruthless or endure it. If you can't be ruthless and you can't bear it anymore, please get out.

Tense nerves, days of walking on thin ice

The department I work in is a fixed network, and the products are very old and mature, and the existing network products are used a lot. This requires us to have extremely high requirements on product quality, and there can be no mistakes at all. Because any problem on the existing network may cause a chain reaction of accountability. The final result is likely to be a C in annual performance, the year-end bonus will be wasted, and the work will be in vain.

For programmers, it is actually a good thing to demand high quality, and it is good for individuals. However, if you do not have good psychological stress tolerance, please choose to join the company carefully.

Office Politics

If you think that the working atmosphere of all programmers is so simple, then you are totally wrong. In Huawei, the performance of level 13 and 14 is evaluated together, and the performance of level 15 and 16 is evaluated together. This performance mechanism leads to competitive relationships among colleagues. A, B, B+, and C performance all have fixed proportions. If you get good performance, then the probability of me getting good performance will be low. Everyone has their own Xiao Jiujiu in their hearts, and there are many people who compete for performance, take credit, and build relationships. If you are a quiet programmer who just wants to write code quietly, and if you cannot show your own highlights, the most likely result is that after working for a few years, others will move up the job level, while you are still at the bottom. Knock on the code and eventually be replaced.

Of course, Huawei also has its good points. As long as you are capable and know how to do things, you will have a bright future. In addition, Huawei’s internal platform is very large. If you don’t want to take the current position, you can consider transferring to another position internally...

The waves are rushing through the sand, and I pay tribute to the heroes who have stayed and have been struggling!

1. No annual leave

2. No personal time

3. Inhumane, likes to play sports, irrational, good at deceiving people, Vicious competition

4. Low technical level, no attention to technology, ppt culture, serious phenomenon of kneeling and licking leaders

5. Inefficient, labor-intensive

When I was at Huawei, my colleagues came and went, and the turnover rate was indeed not low. On the one hand, a certain number of people in Huawei were evaluated as incompetent (C) every year. On the other hand, some friends did have problems with themselves and others. The company left Huawei for various reasons. I myself left Huawei a few years ago, so I will talk about this issue.

The reason why I left my job was because I wanted a better development space. Huawei actually has a screw culture. Every Huawei employee is a screw. Employees are similar to workers on an assembly line. The development of employees is actually greatly restricted by the process. So in order to better utilize my abilities, I went to somewhere else.

Of course, when I was at Huawei, Huawei's system was much more rigid than it is now. It is said that Huawei's system and processes are undergoing changes, and employees in some positions can already give full play to their abilities. But I didn’t complain when I left Huawei. After all, Huawei taught me a lot, and I’m still very grateful.

My colleagues left Huawei basically for two reasons: company reasons and personal reasons.

Poor employee evaluation is the main reason why employees leave Huawei. There is a saying within Huawei that "three years of miserable life" means that if you are not competent in the evaluation, unless you are very good in the future, your future in Huawei will basically be ruined. Therefore, some colleagues did leave because of the evaluation.

Resigned due to company reasons, including that the evaluation was not very good and the company did not renew the contract; or the evaluation did not meet expectations, the salary was reversed, the salary increase and annual bonus were cheated, and I felt it was unfair, so I resigned. etc. You need to know that Huawei is a big company. A big company is like a small society. It has many problems and is full of problems. It is normal to have all kinds of dissatisfaction.

There are also many employees who have resigned due to their own reasons. For example, one of the main reasons is to work in IT companies, such as Tencent and Alibaba, where development will be better, so I left my job because of better development. In fact, this is also the case for me.

Another very important reason for leaving your job due to your own reasons is that you are too tired from work or have financial freedom. Many colleagues were too tired from work, so they resigned and became civil servants, went to state-owned enterprises and institutions, and some girls even decided to take care of their children full time. There are also some colleagues who will resign and do some easy jobs if they feel that they have made enough money and their health is not as good as before.

So we see that although Huawei treats its employees well, many employees still leave. The reasons why employees leave are nothing more than money, career, and health. The same goes for Huawei employees. Sometimes treatment really isn't everything.

Huawei is a respectable company and the pride of our country. Its employees are of very high quality, and its services and technologies are also excellent. Its queuing machines, firewalls, and network equipment outperform all other brands.

Who else besides Huawei can go abroad and compete with the world? Tencent Alibaba? But if you are not ready to risk your life when working at Huawei, the only two possibilities are to resign or be fired. First of all, you are basically not allowed to work in your hometown, and overtime is a must, whether it is R&D or a front-line engineer, even if you have completed the task at hand excellently. All work, if you don't work overtime, will be graded as C. In addition, almost all evening time is spent on meetings, training, and internal exams. Secondly, there will basically be a lot of pressure. Because we are Party B, we need to complete many projects and projects according to Party A's requirements. When doing technical work, we all know that some cutovers or upgrades will inevitably fail. And if it affects the business and receives complaints from Party A, The consequences are quite serious. If you go overseas, there is a high chance that you will be assigned to a third world country. The pressures of infectious diseases, social order, parents and families, etc. are self-evident. This is the basic state of affairs I have encountered with Huawei people. Do you think there are other reasons?

As someone who has experienced this, I came to Huawei with great ambitions. However, I left Huawei after only staying for more than a year. Many people around me felt puzzled, but at that time, I did have some thoughts in my heart. The clear answer is not impulsive. The main reasons for resignation are as follows:

First of all, it is due to personal career planning considerations.

Different from the views of some previous respondents, I think you can still learn a lot from Huawei, especially in terms of professional technology. At least in the field I am engaged in, Huawei is still at an absolute leading position in China. Leading, the technical atmosphere of my team is also very strong, but at the same time, I gradually realized that I am not actually a person who is keen on technology. When doing projects, I will pay more attention to the results, as well as risk prediction and assessment. , but never had much interest in the analysis and research of technical issues, so I decided to adjust my career development route in time, but I also knew that it was difficult to have room for myself in Huawei, a huge aircraft carrier, so I decided to I decided to resign and go to another platform for better development.

Secondly, there is the screw culture mentioned by many respondents.

The screw culture is not unique to Huawei. It is a disease of large companies. However, many colleagues around me who have come from large factories still feel that it is particularly obvious in Huawei. As far as my personal experience is concerned, the work content at Huawei requires sophisticated and deep work rather than shallow and general, which is very different from most small and medium-sized enterprises outside. On the other hand, Huawei has a strong training mechanism. Being able to train a fresh graduate into a qualified "screw" in a very short time, and equipped with a complete process system, almost no one is irreplaceable unless he is a technical expert or a senior manager. Therefore, although Huawei has high income, in fact, the room for advancement for most people is extremely limited and is surrounded by risks. For the company, their personal value is simply insignificant.

Finally, it is the lack of network resources caused by long-term and endless overtime work.

Huawei's elites have great success in the company, but after leaving Huawei, apart from having more money, they may not have any advantages in other aspects such as human resources, and may even be at a disadvantage. Here is a question for everyone to think about together: How should one judge whether a job is good or bad? At a class reunion, when everyone talks about their jobs, they all seem to compare them based on their income. However, is money the only criterion? I do not deny that I once held the same view, nor do I deny that having more money was the main reason why I chose to go to Huawei at that time. However, when my relatives come to my city to see a doctor, but I can’t find any favorable resources, or when I see my colleagues around me at Huawei, although they have a high salary of millions, they are also worried about their children’s schooling. I have a big question.

Huawei is a besieged city. People outside are scrambling to get in, but people inside are unable to get out due to various constraints. My personal suggestion is that you should be cautious when resigning. Don’t think that the outside world must be wonderful. There are also many people who are entering the palace for the second time at Huawei. You still need to think clearly about what you want, what the company can give you, and both. Find a balance between the two, in short, the most important thing is appropriateness.