Why do Qidong people say they are from southern Jiangsu?

Nantong: After seeing Shanghai and Suzhou, I no longer worry about whether I belong to southern Jiangsu or northern Jiangsu! One view is that people in Shanghai, Suzhou, Wuxi and Changzhou generally don't think Nantong is southern Jiangsu, while Haimen and Qidong in Nantong think they are southern Jiangsu.

Nantong: After seeing Shanghai and Suzhou, I no longer care whether I belong to southern Jiangsu or northern Jiangsu.

Nantong

This is very interesting. In fact, if you search the distribution map of Wu dialect, Qihai County in Jiangbei really belongs to Wu dialect. When locals go to many places in Zhejiang, they can hear a little knowledge of their dialects. On the contrary, I didn't understand a word when I went to Nantong city. Haimen dialect in Qidong is 98% similar to Shanghai dialect, which may be the reason. ...

Basically agree with this view, in fact, from the latitude point of view, Yancheng City is suitable for the northernmost part of Central Jiangsu; In addition, from the dialect point of view, it is indeed more appropriate to take Nantong Nansan County in the middle of Nantong as the southern part of Jiangsu Province, while Hai 'an in the northernmost part of Nantong and Dongtai in the southernmost part of Yancheng are the central part of Jiangsu Province, and the monument of seven wars and seven victories in the central part of Jiangsu Province is located in Hai 'an.

Nantong: After seeing Shanghai and Suzhou, I no longer care whether I belong to southern Jiangsu or northern Jiangsu.

Nantong

However, in Shanghai and Suzhou-Wuxi-Changzhou areas, Subei = Subei, that is, Subei is north of the Yangtze River, and even Ningzhen and Chongming Island are Subei (mainly dialect differences, but it seems that Gaochun Lishui Haimen Qidong Jingjiang and Tongzhou are excluded).

Of course, there is a more interesting saying. In Shanghai, north of Suzhou Creek in Shanghai is Subei District 4 (strictly speaking, it is Bangbei District 4), and south of Suzhou Creek is Sunan District 4 (Bangnan District 4).

Nantong: After seeing Shanghai and Suzhou, I no longer worry about whether I belong to southern Jiangsu or northern Jiangsu! Even in Suzhou, there is a saying that the part of the city north of the ancient city of Suzhou, that is, part of Xiangcheng District of Wuxian County, is northern Jiangsu (this view is more common in the eyes of the older generation of Suzhou people).