Nowadays, many local children in Shanghai cannot speak the Shanghai dialect. Will the Shanghai dialect disappear?

Local children in Shanghai cannot speak Shanghai dialect. It is possible that Shanghai dialect will disappear in a few years. This is a very sad thing. Why do children born in Shanghai not speak Shanghai dialect? It is really a pity to think about it. , leading to the inability to speak Shanghai dialect. Mandarin is Mandarin. Shanghai teachers come from all over the country and cannot speak Shanghai dialect or Shanghai dialect, so they use Mandarin to teach children the most standard language, and Shanghai parents do not pay attention to it. Shanghai dialect is used. When speaking to children, you don’t need to communicate in Shanghainese. You should use Mandarin without discrimination. Especially in New Shanghai, where there are many people who speak Shanghainese, children are taught in Mandarin. Therefore, not many real Shanghai children can speak Shanghai dialect. Most of them are taught by grandparents and grandparents. Only the older generation in Shanghai can speak the standard Shanghai dialect, which has led to generations of Shanghainese to speak Shanghai dialect. In order not to cause the Shanghai dialect to disappear, starting from this new era, we should start from an early age and strengthen the education of Shanghai dialect for children. We should also pay attention to the Shanghai education department. The Shanghai dialect cannot be lost and disappear. Dialects are preserved in every place in the country, not to mention our Shanghai. Can international metropolises abandon dialects? Shanghai dialect is the essence. It would be a pity if the mother tongue of Shanghainese really disappears. Without the emotion and warmth of Shanghainese, communicating in other languages ??does not belong to what real Shanghainese want to express. Without the soul of Shanghai dialect, it cannot be expressed. Shanghai dialect has art and emotion, so Shanghai dialect cannot disappear. A sentence of Shanghai dialect will be passed down from generation to generation.

I am not from Shanghai, I am from Chengdu, and I found this question from recommendations.

People used to say that they are not afraid of the sky or the earth, but they are afraid that Chengdu people speak Mandarin, which means that Chengdu people cannot speak Mandarin well. Many outsiders even complain that Chengdu people don’t speak Mandarin. In fact, with the promotion of Mandarin in recent years, this phenomenon has been appropriately improved, but the improvement is far from enough. Some middle-aged and elderly people are unwilling or even unable to speak Mandarin at all. Most young people can speak Mandarin, but some of them have accents. If you speak Mandarin to a young person and they still speak dialect to you, there are generally two situations: ① This young man comes from a city surrounding Chengdu or a suburb of Chengdu and is educated. The degree is not high ② This young man is really obsessed with dialects. Generally speaking, this situation is rare

However, with the promotion of Mandarin and the increasing number of people from other places, the situation of dialects in Chengdu is also getting worse. The less optimistic. Let’s not talk about the old-school Chengdu dialect. Even the new-school Chengdu dialect is in danger. The current dialect situation in Chengdu is very similar to the situation of Shanghai dialect in the 1990s.

On the one hand, Chengdu's post-90s and post-00s dialect levels have seriously regressed. Not only has the pronunciation been seriously popularized, but the dialect vocabulary has also disappeared, and it has almost completely transformed into the new Chengdu dialect (the pronunciation is almost indistinguishable from Mandarin) different). What’s more serious is that the dialects of many elderly people in Sichuan and Chongqing are also being misled by our young people.

On the other hand, I feel that starting from the post-10s generation in Chengdu, the number of children who can speak dialects is decreasing day by day. There are more and more local parents in Chengdu around us who don’t know whether it’s due to lack of cultural confidence or some other reason, but they only teach their children to speak Mandarin. It doesn’t matter if you tell your parents their standard Mandarin, some parents’ Mandarin is really difficult to describe. The famous Chengdu poet Liushahe only spoke dialects, but his granddaughter could not understand the dialects and could only speak Mandarin, so he asked Liushahe's daughter to be the translator between dialects and Mandarin. This is no longer the case in Chengdu.

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Let me first talk about my experience. My maternal family is from Fujian, and now we are all natives of Chengdu.

My maternal grandfather can speak Sichuanese and Mindong dialect with a bit of Fujian accent; starting from my mother’s generation, including me, no longer speak Mindong dialect, but only Chengdu dialect and Mandarin; and then the youngest in the family I am born after 2005. I can no longer even speak Chengdu dialect. I can only speak Mandarin, and all of it is Mandarin. I have even lost the Chengdu accent and vocabulary. All this is because my parents clearly know how to speak Chengdu dialect, but they just don’t teach them. The children said that they feel that the future will be an era of Mandarin, and there is no need to teach children to speak dialects; we can only speak Mandarin to children. This has caused hardships to the older generation in the family. The older generation does not originally speak Mandarin. In terms of parents, Under the request of Trump, he learned from Trump and improved the Mandarin level of the older generation. The children still only speak Mandarin. From the time the baby is born, parents instill Mandarin into the baby. This is the case now in junior high schools. Whether the baby plays games with classmates or not, it is all in Mandarin. These children have zh, ch, sh, r, etc. There is no problem with the pronunciation of tongue sounds, ing, eng nasal sounds, etc. If you ask them to speak dialects, many of them can't speak it. They take it for granted that they are proud to speak Mandarin, but are unwilling to come into contact with Chengdu dialect. To be honest, I I also feel helpless. The decline of dialects is a general trend. Mandarin is relatively good, but non-mandarin is declining faster. Now our whole family and children speak Mandarin, and we are all used to it now. When we want to teach the baby dialect, it is exactly like a foreigner learning Sichuan dialect from the beginning to the end, even now that the baby is in junior high school. Every time we speak dialect or even dialect to the baby, the baby's parents refuse, saying that this will lead to bad children... …

Now that I am on the Chengdu subway, the probability of hearing Mandarin is far greater than the probability of hearing dialects. It is understood that more and more companies or groups in Chengdu now require employees to speak Mandarin during work, but this has not yet been fully promoted. However, some small and medium-sized enterprises in Chengdu still mainly speak Mandarin.

I remember from time to time that before I entered university, I attended a gathering of local Chengdu students. There seemed to be less than ten people, and they were all from the same university as me and sat down to say hello. When I was there, I found that they all spoke Mandarin without exception, and it was still standard Mandarin. I was the only one who spoke dialects, because I always speak dialects. They asked me, can you speak Mandarin, and I said, I can. , but I don’t want to say it, because I am in Sichuan, and everyone is a local... Now that I think about it, I still find it a bit funny

I am studying in other provinces now, because there are many foreign students, and I usually talk about I am used to Mandarin. After several years of study, I have become accustomed to speaking Mandarin to the locals in Sichuan and Chongqing. Even when I return to Chengdu, I don’t know why, but I speak Mandarin as soon as I speak, so much so that sometimes I almost forget how to speak the dialect. For some reason, my peers from Sichuan and Chongqing and I feel more comfortable speaking Mandarin, but speaking dialects is still awkward. Not only that, I sometimes go to a milk tea shop or buy clothes on the street in the center of Chengdu. Many of the shop assistants also speak Mandarin, and it is relatively standard Mandarin, although I sometimes speak dialects with them

Our generation I am afraid that it is only a matter of time before we see the death of dialects, not just Chengdu dialect, not just Shanghai dialect, but all dialects in the country. Because the disappearance of dialects has become a world-class disaster.

There are 200 million people speaking Mandarin in southwest China. With the vigorous promotion of Mandarin, I am afraid it will really become a rare species within a hundred years. This can be seen by looking at children in big cities. It is understood that Guiyang dialect, Kunming dialect, Hanzhong dialect, Wuhan dialect, Guiliu dialect, etc., which are all Mandarin dialects in Southwest China, have experienced faults, and it is becoming more and more obvious...

I am afraid that the dialect can be saved. There are really only school rules and regulations. I grew up in Chengdu. In our era, teachers all spoke dialects in class. Even after class, if the teacher spoke Mandarin, we all thought he was pretending. However, now I feel that it is completely the other way around. Nowadays, all major primary schools and kindergartens in Chengdu require teachers and students to speak Mandarin, and the number of children who speak dialects has gradually become a minority. Every time I pass by the gates of primary schools and kindergartens in the city, or go shopping in shopping malls , all the children speak Mandarin, and all of them speak Mandarin. Even the Chengdu accent and vocabulary are almost gone. Many parents also speak Mandarin with their children. I see that most young parents in Chengdu urban area speak Mandarin quite well.

Now in urban Chengdu, Mandarin is not only the language these children use to communicate in school, but has also gradually become the language of life. I remember when I was in junior high school, there were a few students in our class who could only speak Mandarin. I asked them why they spoke Mandarin, and they said they couldn’t speak dialects, even though at least one of their parents was a native of Chengdu, and They were never taught to speak dialects, so we could only speak Mandarin. Until now at the reunion of junior high school classmates, they and I all speak Mandarin. What's more, more and more teachers in primary and secondary schools in Chengdu are outsiders themselves. They may not be able to speak dialects themselves, let alone teach children dialects. I remember that my junior high school English teacher was a foreigner and could only speak Mandarin, so the classmates and teachers we came into contact with all spoke Mandarin. Last time I went back to my junior high school alma mater, I discovered that Mandarin has become a daily routine, and Non-local teachers are no longer in the minority...

Many people say that kindergartens and elementary schools are very strict, but they will be relaxed in middle schools and high schools. I can tell you this, it is only a matter of time before junior high school and high school catch up with popularization. This is a matter of time...

In comparison, I feel that Chongqing has done better than Chengdu in terms of dialects and inheritance. Much better! I have been to Chongqing more than once, and my impression is that Chongqing people prefer to speak dialects than Chengdu dialects, and the dialects are much more earthy than Chengdu.

The once glorious Sichuan and Chongqing dialect dramas have gradually declined. Even Sichuan and Chongqing dialect raps and dialect movies can no longer reverse the fact that the dialect is declining, because with the promotion of Mandarin, society is full of standard Mandarin. , people hear more in Mandarin, and even if there are Sichuan and Chongqing dialect movies, few people watch them; as far as I know, almost no one of my age or family members watch dialect movies, and no one listens to dialect raps. Today's children have basically received formal Mandarin education, but have very little exposure to dialects. As I said before, some children only speak Mandarin; most of these children are no longer able to understand some of the dialects and vocabulary in dialect dramas. Therefore, it is almost impossible to take the initiative to accept the important task of Sichuan and Chongqing dialect culture. The dialect and dialect culture just get on the elevator and get farther and farther away from us...

Maybe Chengdu (City) in 20 or 30 years District) dialect is like today's Shanghainese dialect. I am afraid that only Chengdu locals can protect the dialect.

It is absolutely unrealistic to ask Chengdu to protect dialects, because Chengdu will definitely become an immigrant metropolis like Shanghai in the future. This is not the future tense, but the present continuous tense. The important task of dialect protection can only be left to the prefectures and cities surrounding Chengdu.

Although no one wants to see dialects die, and we are helpless, with the progress of the times, the decline and even gradual extinction of dialects is probably a historical necessity...

This is Responsibility of city managers

Those who oppose dialects are from outside, and those who want to preserve dialects are locals

This has become a fact! My granddaughter said; Except grandpa speaks in dialect! Everyone around us speaks Mandarin

All dialects should have disappeared. This is progress. Dialect itself is the product of backward transportation economy.

My daughter still doesn’t understand Shanghainese, but my husband and I both speak Mandarin

Nowadays, when children in Shanghai start learning to speak, many adults and parents teach them to speak Mandarin instead of Shanghainese. So Shanghainese will eventually disappear.

Shanghai has been a city of immigrants since its opening. There are dozens of dialects in Shanghai, including English and local dialects, so a language that everyone can accept and understand was born. This is Shanghainese. Shanghainese is not a dialect. It is a regional Mandarin language. In the past, Shanghainese generally spoke two languages, hometown dialect and Shanghainese.

With the influx of a large number of new Shanghainese people into Shanghai during the reform and opening up, it is an inevitable trend for regional Mandarin to be replaced by national Mandarin.

Dialects will never disappear. Let me emphasize again that Shanghainese is not a dialect but a regional Mandarin. If you understand the origin of Shanghainese, you will understand that the disappearance of Shanghainese is inevitable. Nowadays, people in Shanghai still speak two languages, their hometown dialect and Mandarin.

This is unfounded worry, the earth will still turn after it disappears