Compare the territory maps of Ming and Qing Dynasties, and talk about the changes.

A brief introduction to the territory in the early Ming Dynasty and a comparison with the territory in the Ming and Qing Dynasties

It has been demonstrated that the territory of the Han, Tang and Yuan Dynasties was larger than that of the Manchu Dynasty. I won't say much. There are only some ulterior motives ... {Delete some words here-I note}. Let me just say that the territory of the Ming Dynasty was bigger than that of Manchu.

To compare the territory size of a dynasty, we must first determine the method of comparison. He {knows who it is, the same below-I note} that's exactly what we like to do. They have the audacity to say that the Manchus received 3.53 million square kilometers of land from the Ming Dynasty and brought 2.48 million square kilometers of land from Manchuria themselves. After entering the customs, the total area of Mongolia and other places reached 13 million square kilometers. Even if some were lost, the Qing court handed over 11.42 million square kilometers of land to the Republic of China. Therefore, the Manchu people think that they are not only innocent but have made great contributions to the territory of China. This is also the origin of the so-called saying that the territory of Manchu is larger than that of Ming Dynasty.

first of all, it is despicable to take the territory of the late Ming dynasty as the territory of the Ming dynasty. A dynasty always has its ups and downs. It is common sense that when it rises, its territory is large and when it is weak, it is small. Just as we say that a strong man prospers in the Tang Dynasty, there are actually times when he is weak. When a dynasty is weak, it has no practical significance to discuss how vast its territory is. Because it often can't even control the capital. In the last few decades of Qing dynasty, there were many concessions in the territory, and even Beijing was stationed in the army by various countries. What territory can we talk about?

Secondly, it is self-contradictory not to recognize the Northeast as the territory of the Ming Dynasty. On the one hand, when they preach "Chinese nationalism", they think that the dispute between Manchu and Han is an internal contradiction in China. On the other hand, when it came to fighting for territory, they tried their best to deny that Northeast China was a part of the Ming Dynasty, and even fabricated a big lie that the Qing Dynasty brought 2.48 million square kilometers of land.

compare the territory with the largest period.

the biggest period of the Ming dynasty was the Yongle period.

we start from the northeast. In the Ming Dynasty, the territory of the Ming Dynasty included a large area of Outer Xing 'an Mountains and Eastern Siberia. (It belongs to the jurisdiction of Nuergandusi, etc.) And a large part of this area was betrayed by Manchu in the late Ming Dynasty and became the territory of Russia (the savage Nuzhen, who originally belonged to Nuergandusi in the Ming Dynasty, was driven by Cossack in the north of Waixinganling, lost a large area of land and fled to Liaodong in the south) (so it is said that the Nuzhen who lost Waixinganling and the north in the Ming Dynasty was responsible for the defense of this area, not the central government of the Ming Dynasty). Not only that, Kangxi also signed the Treaty of Nebuchadnezzar Chu with Russia to transfer land. The outer Xing 'an Mountains and Siberian land, which were the territory of Ming Dynasty, were formally allocated to Russia. . Kangxi also failed to effectively manage Sakhalin Island, the location of Nangharwei in Yongle era. So that it was easily occupied by Japan and Russia later.

let's talk about the south. Yongle Emperor conquered Annan again, which made Jiaotoe as China territory as Han and Tang Dynasties in the early Ming Dynasty (hehe, it was lost in the Ming Dynasty). There is no Annan in Qing Dynasty. Daming's Mubang Xuanwei Division has 33 big toasts. Ruling the territory of northern Myanmar today, which is equivalent to a province of Daming. What's clear? In the Mubang of the Qing Dynasty, the Qing court had no administrative jurisdiction. The old port propaganda department of Ming Dynasty is in Indonesia today. It is Daming's highest administrative body in Nanyang. Where is the administrative organization of the Qing government in Nanyang? Manlaga is a colony of Daming (originally controlled by Siam and later founded by Zheng He-I note). What's clear? Mount Ceylon, where the imperial edict of Emperor Yongle replacing the king was placed. Actually, it is a domestic country. If you are reluctant, Daming's territory will reach Sri Lanka.

Tibet. The Ming and Qing dynasties were similar. (In fact, in the early Ming Dynasty, Tibet was more powerful than in the Qing Dynasty.

western regions. Ming can't do it, not only can't compare with Han, Tang and Yuan Dynasties, but also can't compare with Qing Dynasty. {the area controlled by the western regions of Ming dynasty was only near the eastern border, which was much worse than that of Qing dynasty-I note}

But the area in the south and northeast of Ming dynasty was several million square kilometers more than that of Manchu dynasty, and it was still much larger than that of Qing dynasty. Only those XY's can say how the territory of the Qing Dynasty is three times that of the Ming Dynasty.

(Here, once again, there should be a fairly fair standard for comparing territories, and it is against nonsense. Whether it is Tang, Han, Yuan, Ming or Qing, his territory is not fixed. If we compare the heyday of one era with the decline of another, the result will be very ridiculous. For example, the territory of the Manchu and Kangxi Dynasties should not include Zhungeer (Zhungeer became the territory of the Manchu Dynasty after 24 years of Qianlong, and the things after 5 years were mentioned in front, ... {omit some words-I note}), nor should it include Tibet (Tibet was successfully controlled by the Manchu Dynasty after Kangxi sent troops to Lhasa in 59 years. Before that, Tibet was controlled by Zhungeer and Huoshuote Mongolia respectively, while Kangxi was in 61 years. )