Why doesn't anyone drive an American full-size SUV cross-country in China?

There are so many full-size SUVs in the United States, why doesn't anyone use them to enter Tibet?

Many people wonder that American SUV culture is so popular that only the United States has a full-size SUV in the world. The wheel dynamics theory of cross-country ability is absolutely unnecessary, or even worse. But why do few people in Kazakhstan use these cars to reach the peak and cross the hero slope and the death ridge?

The SUV culture in the United States is different from that in China.

China's SUV culture originated from Mitsubishi Pajero. Only two kinds of SUVs were seen on the road in the 1980s, one was 2 12. However, people think that only Pajero is the real off-road vehicle, and then Toyota began to bully in the 1990 s, and Chinese people began to flock to Toyota bullying again.

American SUV comes from pickup culture. The reason why there is a full-size SUV is because the earliest SUV came from a van pickup truck, that is, a cover was added to the back bucket of the pickup truck, which changed from pulling goods to pulling people. Therefore, the full-size SUV in the United States, even if its performance is strong, also undertakes the work of pulling goods and MPV. It has nothing to do with cross-country

The geographical environment of the United States and China is different.

In addition, the United States is a plain country, the mountainous areas are concentrated in the western region, and the central and eastern regions are plains, so the off-road function of off-road vehicles is rarely used in daily life. Even on vacation, off-road vehicles will not run to the plateau. China is not. Although China also has 9.6 million square kilometers of land, it actually accounts for almost half of the country's mountains, and it is necessary to climb mountains and cross mountains everywhere. The requirements for SUVs have become different.

Full-size SUV is not suitable for off-road

American full-size SUV will always be a 6.2L V8 engine with strong horsepower. The four-wheel drive capability is not low. However, it is necessary to know that the wheelbase of a full-size SUV is too long and it is easier to drag the bottom. As you can see, no matter how long the Toyota Prado body is, its wheelbase is only 2.79 meters, which is not as long as that of Q5. This is data sacrificed for off-road performance.

In addition, due to the weight of the vehicle, the fuel consumption control of American full-size SUV also depends on the advanced technology of the engine. However, the more advanced the engine, the worse its adaptability to oil products. People who play cross-country must know that Pajero Jinchang and Toyota Prado have poor engine power values. The power output of 4.0L engine is not as good as that of 2.0T engine. But it is this kind of engine that can adapt to the use environment of high altitude and low oil.

American full-size SUVs represent American automobile culture, and most of them are not specially built for off-road. Typical models are Cadillac Escalade, Lincoln Navigator, Chevrolet Saboban, and Ford Conqueror, which is very popular recently. American full-size SUVs are basically built with the chassis of pickup trucks, with large displacement, wide body and long wheelbase, which looks very imposing. But their approach angle and departure angles are not very high.

Off-road vehicles not only require high power and mechanical performance of vehicles, but also the ground clearance and wheelbase of vehicles. The longer the wheelbase, the easier it is for a car to hit the chassis when driving on some hump roads. In severe cases, the car will get stuck on the hump road, like a seesaw. Escalade Extended Edition has a wheelbase of 3302mm, while Toyota Land Patrol has a wheelbase of only 2850mm, nearly 50 cm more than you can imagine.

Moreover, Americans' demand for full-size SUVs is mainly large space and dragging ability, followed by passability. They like the kind of car with huge internal space, which can seat seven people at the same time, and the trunk space can also hold some big items. Moreover, they also like to take their family and luggage on weekends or during breaks, then tow a flatbed car at the rear of the car to put their motorboats on it, and then directly tow a mobile RV behind the latter to drive to the lake or seaside to play. So many full-size SUVs have a drag mode on them.

Yan Ge's point of view: The focus of full-size SUV is not off-road capability, but has huge riding space, storage space and dragging ability. Although these full-size SUVs are huge, they are not suitable for off-road because of their long wheelbase. Consumers who buy them are mostly used for commuting.

The first thing to know is what is an American full-size off-road vehicle, Cadillac Escalade, Lincoln's navigator, Chevrolet Saboban, Ford Conqueror, GMC Yukon. Most of them are V8 large displacement. Americans love large displacement, strong size suitable for big cars, sufficient power, large space and strong loading capacity. Why do few people in China take the same car to play in the wild?

These American full-size cars enter China at a high price, and they are generally bought for style. When you drive a big car at the intersection and wait for the traffic lights, the turn-back rate is still very high. There is a lot of space, no matter whether you drive or ride, other cars can't experience it. It feels like moving your sofa into the car. But buying these cars in America is too cost-effective. For others, it is a "domestic car", and people's oil prices are also cheap, so when you come to the United States, it is common to see a displacement of more than 6.0.

American culture is also different. Most of the leisure time is for outings, family trips and a lot of luggage, so it is very suitable to buy these cars for home use. There are almost no cars in China, but they are very stylish and make people feel "expensive". In addition, there is indeed a gap in workmanship between American cars and Japanese cars, and the durability is not as good as that of Japanese cars, resulting in too few domestic cars and no off-road heel. As an off-road vehicle, reliability must be the first. Even if it is broken and easy to repair, the maintenance cost is low, and the spare parts are abundant and cheap, you can't drive the Escalade off-road and the bar is scratched or the bearing has problems. Who will play after waiting for an accessory for three months? On the contrary, the reputation of leather Japanese cars in the domestic car industry is well known. Possession is very large, so no matter whether it is spare parts or reliability, as long as you buy off-road vehicles, Japanese, Toyota overbearing, land patrol, Tule and the like, it will definitely be the first choice. Even if the American car is a full-size non-loaded body, it can be off-road, but the owner will not be willing. Their positioning has changed and they have become urban uses. High-end configuration means that they are highly electronic and have a high failure rate. If they really want to drive an American car cross-country, they also drive a jeep shepherd. Those "delicate" big guys are service bosses and business people, which is sad and exasperating.

This question is a bit interesting! I can see that you have a deep understanding of cross-country and cars.

When you mention Tibet, you must know that the road to Tibet is getting better and better, and ordinary family cars can also enter Tibet, so Tibet has little to do with off-road performance.

Secondly, you mentioned the American full-size off-road vehicle. In my opinion, there is a great demand for this kind of vehicle in the United States, but not many people choose it in the domestic consumer market at present. If we only talk about off-road demand, most people will consider "Japanese" for the first time, because reliability is the basic guarantee of off-road. Moreover, for Chinese people, a full-size purebred big guy is still rare, and people who choose it generally prefer its "momentum" and "size" rather than its off-road performance.

The above is my personal opinion.

Generally, when playing cross-country, we find that many Japanese hard-core off-road vehicles are holding Jeep herdsman, and few of them drive American full-size SUVs to cross-country. Why?

As the name implies, full-size SUV is the largest model with the largest size, the largest displacement and the largest space in the SUV market segment. Although this model gives the impression that it is very domineering and big, in fact, the full-size SUV has a big disadvantage when it is off-road, that is, it is bulky. Generally speaking, the length of full-size SUV is about 5 meters, which has certain limitations in both off-road and sand off-road For example, because the car body is long and the wheelbase is long, it is very easy to "bear" on the sand beam and it is easier to sink in.

Another point is that the current American full-size SUV has gradually faded off-road attributes and is more inclined to luxury SUVs. Although most full-size SUVs still have some off-road performance, they are relatively limited. On the contrary, there are more comfortable configurations and more electronic components, which is very easy to break down when off-road, but it is counterproductive.

Finally, I think it's the price. For example, the price of some full-size SUVs in the United States is around one million, so why don't consumers choose FJ Cool Road Ze or Jeep Shepherd with higher cost performance? They can spend less money and get better off-road performance. Therefore, the market will be classified and like large-size luxury SUVs, so we choose American full-size SUVs and prefer hard-core off-road vehicles. Consumers who are happy with off-road vehicles will choose hard-core off-road vehicles such as FJ Cool Road Ze. Over time, we will find that few people drive full-size SUVs to cross-country.

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Why doesn't anyone drive an American full-size suv to cross-country? What are the most cars on the way to Tibet? Nothing more than Prado, Lu Xun, Mitsubishi Pajero and Jimny. It is not difficult to find that Japanese off-road vehicles account for the highest proportion during the crossing.

Why do cross-country players prefer Japanese? It is very important that the quality is high, there are few minor defects, and it is resistant to manufacturing, so you don't have to worry about being left on the road. All the attributes and stability of off-road vehicles are insignificant compared with each other. How many locks there are, how large the displacement is, what six cylinders and eight cylinders, and how many times the low torque can be amplified are not the most critical. Imagine that your car broke down in the middle of the endless plateau mountains. It's really a kind of despair. I really regret being so idle, and it hurts more and more. At this time, even if you have ten locks, it won't help, you can only stare.

So can these so-called American full-size SUVs meet people's requirements for high-quality cars? The reliability of Cadillac Escalade and Chevrolet suburban is really flattering. The reputation of American cars has been very poor, and various minor problems continue. Even hard goods like Ford Raptor are not as good as smooth roads in quality. How many people are willing to take such risks?

Quality is on the one hand, when it comes to sales, these American full-size off-road vehicles have no advantage in terms of ownership. Land Rover, Land Patrol, Tule, Bullying and even Shepherd can be seen everywhere on the street, but these American full-size off-road vehicles are rare. Few people buy it, let alone drive it off-road. Except in the United States, these cars can only be regarded as non-mainstream in the world, and their market recognition is also very low.

In addition, the prices of Escalade, Yukon and Saboban are all above 6.5438+0 million, and they have no outstanding advantages except personality and large size, especially in terms of brand influence. Consumers have no reason not to choose such high-priced cars as Land Rover Range Rover, Mercedes-Benz G500 and Land Patrol.

Americans have their own unique way of life, the great plains, vast land and sparsely populated, wide roads and cheap oil prices, so they prefer this kind of large off-road vehicle and pickup truck. These vehicles have large space and strong loading capacity, especially some farmers often need to transport things. In addition, Americans like picnics and have large families, so these cars are customized for them and are not practical in China.

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American full-size off-road vehicles have no advantages in brand influence, market share, practicality, price and quality, so domestic consumers do not buy these vehicles, let alone drive off-road vehicles.

American cars have always been gas guzzlers with large displacement, and the tariffs and displacement taxes for entering the China market are too high. Originally, it seems that it only needs about 50,000-70,000 US dollars abroad, and it is conceivable to introduce it into China.

Cattle car critics know that they are short-sighted, so they only express their own views. Chevrolet Suburban has rarely entered the China market so far.

It has been more than 80 years since Chevrolet Suburban came out, and the latest model has reached 12 generation, which is regarded as the originator of full-size SUV models in the United States. The full-size SUV that Americans like is more than 5 meters long, more than 2 meters wide and about 1.9 meters high. The car is 5.7 meters long and equipped with a 5.3L V8 engine, which is more in line with the appetite of American full-size SUV enthusiasts than Lincoln Navigator and Cadillac Escalade, and the price is only 50,000-70,000 US dollars (equivalent to about 330,000-450,000 RMB, which will be twice as high after being introduced into China).

Why not introduce China?

The premium of Chevrolet luxury car is relatively low. After the introduction of Bumblebee into China, there is no need to introduce pure American cars. In the China market, Chevrolet's positioning is lower than that of Buick, which is also a general motors group, and the price of the same class model is not as high as that of Buick, so Chevrolet can only occupy the relatively low-end market.

If Chevrolet Suburban is introduced into China, its price should be around 600 thousand (not too much, right? ), this price includes Grand Cherokee and JEEP herdsman rubicon, both of which have excellent performance in the same class.

There are Land Rover Aurora, Volvo XC60 and Mercedes-Benz GLK, which are deeply rooted in people's hearts (maybe many people don't care if it is full size). Chevrolet Suburban has no advantage in price, what's more, Chevrolet's brand influence can't support its price after coming to China.

To tell the truth, in China, rich people don't like Chevrolet Suburban. Suburban can be seen even in American presidential trips and American movies, but people who really like it can't afford it, so they can only "carry" it in the United States.

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In fact, off-road depends not only on the performance of the vehicle, but also on the passing capacity of the vehicle. Approach angle departure angle is as important as vehicle performance. Off-road is a test of the comprehensive performance of vehicles, not a single excellent performance can be used for off-road

For a full-size SUV, the first disadvantage is that the size is too large and the wheelbase is too long, which leads to a small passing angle and a long wheelbase, and it is easy to support the bottom between the two axles. This situation is too common on unpaved roads. It doesn't mean that you can cross-country with good vehicle performance. In fact, I think the approach angle, departure angle, passing angle and minimum ground clearance of vehicles are as important as vehicle performance, and these are all indispensable.

Basically, there are no professional drivers driving this full-size SUV for cross-country, and once this vehicle is stuck, other vehicles can't be rescued at all, or it is difficult to be rescued. Of course, the full-size pickup truck I mentioned also includes pickup trucks, and there are very few off-road pickup trucks. No one drives this vehicle to challenge the extreme off-road, mainly because of its passability, not because its performance is not good enough, but because its size is too large.

The above contents are my personal views on this issue, hoping to help you. Welcome friends with different opinions to leave comments below and tell me your views on this issue!

Fortunately, because I am in the United States, I rented both cars, and I also rented a Yukon in Alaska, 65438+1at the end of October. However, these two cars are not suitable for extreme off-road, because the wheelbase of the car is too long and the passability is not ideal. On the way from Anchorage to fairbanks, in order to see the scenery, I deliberately bypassed Glennalen and took the Ak0 1 highway. There are many mountain roads here, and Yukon is exposed on the road because of its huge wheelbase. Although driving for 4 hours, there is a tendency to flick the tail every turn, so we can only keep slowing down, especially in some tuyere sections, which is simply a tortoise crawling. The birth of this kind of car is entirely due to the size and convenient parking of Americans. Really not suitable for cross-country

The actual road conditions in China are completely different from those in the United States. We are familiar with American full-size SUVs, almost all of which are biased towards road comfort, such as Escalade, GMCyukon and Navigator. At present, there are exaggerated full-size luxury SUVs on the market. Except for the large size of the vehicle, low ground clearance and long suspension stroke, it is not designed for off-road at all. In the United States, this full-size SUV is usually used as a cruise car in go on road trip. Some families even put a trailer behind the car to meet the needs of long-distance travel. However, even station wagons are not acceptable to consumers in China. This kind of large-size car is basically bought as a door to earn face. The concept of domestic consumers is quite different from that of foreign products.

Even if American consumers really want to cross-country, they will play with cheap and high-priced pickups such as Raptor and Chevrolet, or choose Jeep. The introduction of Raptor into China is purely imported. Only when foreign agricultural factories pull trucks to China can they become real luxury cars.

Looking at the configuration alone, the American full-size SUV can really meet the needs of light off-road, but the off-road four-wheel drive is only an entry-level one. Million-car four-wheel drive or timely four-wheel drive, multi-disc clutch central differential, low torque amplification, differential lock and other hard-core SUVs are basically not equipped. Manufacturers are not prepared to use this tank-sized car as an off-road vehicle at all, and more are safe family cars, paying attention to practicality and comfort. Just ask you, it's more than 3 meters. If you want to play cross-country, buy hard-core cross-country honestly. American cars are used by business owners to receive customers in China, which is considered to be too many.

The above is my personal opinion. Don't spray if you don't like it. I hope it helps you.